Help me Decide please AMD ot Intel

[MisteryAngel]

@purkkaviritys

But you could go and get something like asrock X470 taichi ultimate as it has 10GBe integrated. It all depends. The board also has 8 sata ports, but is pci-e 3.0 even if you get a 3000 series cpu.

That could be an option indeed.
But then you need to be sure that the said board comes with an updated bios.

[noenken]

@chrism84

This will be headless.

In that case, just don’t use one. Board might complain a bit by beeping but who cares…

Any GPU will work as a pure display out even with just a x1 connection. So as long as you can physically plug a card into a slot that is running off the chipset, you’re golden. Depending on the board those can actually be x16 in length.

The x1 was unusual, I bought two of those on ebay. Have to check what those are exactly.

[chrism84]

Do not mind the beeping but some boards may not boot into the OS unless a GPU is detected .

[noenken]

Found it, search ebay for “Sunix VGA”.

[ChuckH]

FYI: Zotac makes a gt 710 that is physically x1.

Amazon.com: ZOTAC GeForce GT 710 1GB DDR3 PCIE x 1 , DVI, HDMI, VGA, Low Profile...

[Adubs]

Why not an x470d4u or d4u-2t?

[chrism84]

Thank you all again

[noenken]

@Adubs

Why not an x470d4u or d4u-2t?

Maybe price? I mean, those are 250+, a B550 would be way less and the Sunix card is seven bucks. What’s the benefit of those two?

[Adubs]

IPMI
ECC on the QVL
onboard graphics that doesnt eat up a pcie slot
more sata

Its server equipment for a server application

[noenken]

IPMI is a fair point. ECC sticks are on quite a few QVLs, at least ASRock and Asus do have some sticks tested on even lower end boards. Onboard SATA is a thing of course, so far I thought an HBA would be a given (and personally I would go that route anyway). PCIe slot for GPU, well yeah, one x1. On the other hand the M-ATX boards you mentioned are already a bit short on those.

[ChuckH]

And dual 10gb intel nic onboard on the d4u-2t

Minus: Slow m.2 slots ( 2.0 x4 or 3.0 x2 )

[Adubs]

Just another option to consider

I like mine

[noenken]

@ChuckH

And dual 10gb intel nic onboard on the d4u-2t

That is big actually, I didn’t see that.

[EDIT] Wait a second, that thing is 380,- Euros? Well, that’s a bit much.

[ChuckH]

There is also the X570D4I-2T coming out soon. Dual 10gb nic, but its mITX. Only one pcie slot.

There is also a rumored matx x570 version coming out in fall.

EDIT: there are a good threads on these boards here:

ASRock Rack has created the first AM4 socket server boards, X470D4U, X470D4U2-2T

ASRock Rack Product Page Ever since Ryzens release I have been waiting for this. This product, as far as I know, the first AM4 socketed server grade motherboard that is going to be released. This would be great for budget minded homelabbers that don’t need a million Threadripper or Xeon cores. Someone like me for example. This would be an awesome budget VM host. I cannot wait to get my hands on one. Here are some of the biggest features: X470 Chipset ECC UDIMM DDR4 is supported (up to 64GB) PCIe 3.0 x16 (splittable to x4/x4/x4/x4) IMPI via Realtek RTL8211E chipset ASPEED AST2500 with 256MB VRAM for basic display via VGA Dual Gigabit LAN via Intel i210 chipset Dual M.2 slots Dual USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports Serial and VGA ports on the back. Better late than never! EDIT: Added iGPU detail 2nd Edit: Added model names: X470D4U, X470D4U2-2T

ASRock X570D4I-2T

https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X570D4I-2T#Specifications Need some advice on splitting up a 16X slot into 2 x slots. I’ve been running a PCI-e 1X in a 16X slot since Z87 days. Using an Intel chip with GPU on die has worked fine. But want to use an AMD Ryzen 2/3, which means a 1 x slot Mini ITX must share an 8X basic GFX card, and a 1X Audio card using a split riser. I have no idea if this can be done and buying 2500 worth of components is forcing me to seek advice from anyone knowledgable. I’ve been told that the Aspeed AST2500 would easily handle my 2D needs which is basically monitoring signals, no 3D, no FPS requirements. But don’t know if Windows 10 can access the ASPEED Chip, or if I get Windows 2012, if it’s compatible with my audio interface. Here’s the GFX 8X and the Riser card I would use. Any help is much appreciated. [image] [image]

[astra]

B450 support/bios for Ryzen 4000 was actually just announced.

[noenken]

Yes, but those will be classified as beta and might have some quirks. B550 gives peace of mind and also comes with PCIe4 support which might be nice for something like a M.2 cache drive.

[astra]

Additionally OP mentioned R5 2600 - from what I’m seeing it doesn’t appear B550 will be compatible/support that.

[noenken]

You’re right. I totally missed that one.
In that case B450 for the 2600 or B550 for something Zen2.

[Shane_Haumpton]

I would go for ryzen 2600 since it has more cores and threads means it will not bottle neck gpu plus you can use it for multi threaded and core task.

Price to performance I believe ryzen would win
check out these pre build setups
https://www.adorama.com/cygma430.html
https://www.adorama.com/cybgma8940c.html

Looks nice for me.