Google’s spawn is kotlin afaik
I might be very wrong… guess dart is to use with flutter…
I’m thinking about taking this new debian boi/gal for a spin… the stability people say makes me shiver with anxiety
the words Debian and anxiety don’t belong in the same sentence
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now i wait on deepin updates
aggggh
can someone please tell me what the sources.list looks like NOW?
for debian-security too?
N: Repository ‘http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease’ changed its ‘Version’ value from ‘’ to ‘10’
E: Repository ‘http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease’ changed its ‘Suite’ value from ‘testing’ to ‘stable’
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
N: Repository ‘http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian buster InRelease’ changed its ‘Version’ value from ‘’ to ‘10.0’
E: Repository ‘http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian buster InRelease’ changed its ‘Suite’ value from ‘testing’ to ‘stable’
agggh
https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/apbs04.en.html#preseed-apt
https://www.debian.org/security/#keeping-secure
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster main
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster main
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
# buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
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i just opened sources.list in vim and did :%s/stretch/buster/g
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That’s a good way, or use sed
sudo sed -i 's/stretch/buster/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
sudo sed -i 's/stretch/buster/g' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
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I use fedora but hey next time someone asks Ill use your answer for where to find the bleeding edge kernel…
inb4 kernel 5.3 is a major update (5.2 got released today and because im kernel vanilla on fedora I was updated) but yeah I see your point
Im always confused by debian naming
Stretch is stable…IDK whats before it and buster is what a testing distro?
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Jessie, Wheezy (might have those backwards), Stretch, Buster.
Current (Stable) is always the downloadable release. Sid/Testing is the next release, IE if Stretch is Stable Buster is Testing.
It’s what Ubuntu is based off of (testing). There is an unstable but I’m not sure what that is. Only used Stable and Testing.
Oh I was always under the presumption they didnt change their codenames much… got ya… Well okay let me ask you this why do most sysadmins use debian but most linux systems I see in schools seem to be fedora and openSUSE?
Ive always wondered
Personal preference combined with grasping at straws and hypothesizing? Debian is stable. It has “old software” but still relevant, but it won’t go down on you like Fedora or Arch will.
apt is fast.
Newer security patches on current kernels are always implemented in backports. You also have a really solid firewall (ufw) integrated into the system that is on par with firewalld.
Debian has a passionate community that take their work seriously. Not to say the others don’t, but Debian is known for solid, quality work. Ubuntu is known because of Amazon, Unity, and Stallman rants, Arch is known because no one likes it’s users, Linux Mint is known because of that one time their password sucked on their database and their ISO got pwn’d, openSUSE is literally Hitler German, Fedora is Arch II, etc. But what is Debian known as? Stable. “Old”, sometimes, but “stable”. Word of mouth spreads, plus positive user experiences.
Just a guess.
My university had Fedora in their computer science labs. I assume it’s the same for openSUSE via the international universities. But, to answer your question, probably because of RHEL/RPM. Easy compatibility and enterprise standard.
sid & testing are different
buster is now stable, bullseye is the new testing- which was unstable(sid)
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“repo does not have a release file”
deb http://security.debian.org/ buster main contrib non-free
as per https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/errata
Updating from such a repository can’t be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
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Ohhh thank you! I had always seen them side by side so I thought they were used interchangeably. @PhaseLockedLoop we’re all learnin’ today.
Oh good catch. Did the update/upgrade go through?
You know that interesting you say Fedora goes down. I remember that was why our sys admin went suse … but he also stated had he not been running a certain combo of software on certain systems fedora would have been fine…
I was going to say I think this is it but even my sci comp software states Debian 9, 10 and Fedora/RHEL8 as its officially supported operating systems
he did nothing wrong… all he wanted to do is liberate you… /s okay not the thread for that kind of sarcasm
torvalds uses fedora… gosh I guess that didnt help the point 
I would honestly say its not like arch II they have a really solid community… they just have stricter standards and are very draconic about enforcing them… I dont see that as a bad thing… software control is important… that and its literally RHEL testing
racial purity is an important component to distro superiority
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so hows the upgrade process from deb 9 to X?
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Flawless. Scroll up 
This is from my ~/.bash_history with no spaces or commands in between.
sudo apt-mark showhold
sudo apt full-upgrade
sudo apt autoremove
sudo sed -i 's/stretch/buster/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
sudo sed -i 's/stretch/buster/g' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
sudo apt full-upgrade
sudo apt autoremove
sudo systemctl reboot
damn maybe I should give her a whirl in a VM … just test out how easy it is to install… Might move parents PC to it from Ubuntu… prolly more stable than ubuntu normal I havent used debian since a long time ago… I always used ubuntu as it made debian easy at the time and then it kind of stuck
seperate home partition makes that easy af
Let me tell you @AnotherDev it took a while to get them off WIndows 8 at the time. My father was pretty HC into outlook until he realized literally all his tasks can be done in thunderbird… and then basically his only reason to keep paying for stuff and office vaporized… and well Told me to backup the data and move them over… Hes not a fan of gnome… I figured that out quick… MATE ironically instead… and I was like… dad thats gnome 2… and he was like I dont care its faster better and simpler… and I LOL’d because everyone always bashes MATE as being ugly
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COUGH
this took forever to happen