That’s why we all have pc’s connected to them.
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that’s why all the smart people do…
but the Bee…
Terrible. AMD should do funky stuff again, like Vega 56/64 or VII.
Why not Radeon 24/32/48 or similar. Just use the code name as the product name. Differentiate from nvidia and compare yourself to your own products in your promo materials.
Radeon marketing is a joke and I think the 9070 branding is a mistake.
Adding insult to injury would be if a 9070 looses to a 5060 from nvidia.
7600 being slower than 4060 doesn’t really sting. but having the exact same naming schema makes it painful to look at and cements the premise that “equivalent” Radeon cards are worse than GeForce.
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Skipped an entire 1xxx – nVIDIA didn’t skip a numeral beat, when moving from GTX to RTX
Now having these large sub-series, that can swing low-high, is scummy akin to nVIDIAs cut 1060/3060
We will see in time. There are no bad products only bad prices, right?
It seems like AMD once again waited out nvidia to place their products in the market to decide on their own pricing structure.
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I’ve heard they explicitly stated during the presentation that the cache is on one single core complex, although they stated they made improvements to the hardware design and the scheduler to mitigate the issues of going across CCDs
Technically they did announce the RX 9070 and 9070XT. It’s just that they haven’t shared any details at all or useful information. If you watch Hardware Unboxed’s video after their Q&A session it looks like they wanted not to mess this launch up like they did with some last gen GPUs, and therefore they wanted to wait for nVidia details and pricing.
Apart from having RTX 2000 and GTX 16xx cards at the same time. And they also skipped the GTX 800 series for the same reasons AMD skipped RX 8xxx: they had used that branding for last gen laptop GPUs
Going from RX 9700 to 9070 though is not particularly justified and I think it will basically matter ZERO.
That said, I’m more furious for the naming scheme and segmentation on laptop Ryzen CPUs… it’s incredibly confusing and misleading. The Z2 chip is basically a refreshed Z1 Extreme, with older GPU cores, and the Z2 Go uses even older CPU cores even though all the Z2 APUs were presented at the same time and were supposed to all be last gen…
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Probably by popular request from Lenovo, Dell, etc.
We will buy up your stock of lower end parts if you name them as if they were the latest and greatest.
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I think they only wanted lower end parts, not specifically older gen parts rebranded as new. AMD could have just offered a cut down Z2 Extreme as Z2, and an even more cut down Z2 for the Z2 Go, so that you have feature parity and efficiency parity with the higher end parts.
S.I. only care about the pricing of the parts and how can they market them…
I don’t think I agree with that. Nvidia having a consistent and fairly simple naming scheme is great for consumers who upgrade every now and then and stop following the hardware scene in the meantime.
AMD naming scheme made it hard to understand how their products stack up in performance compared to their own offerings and their competitor’s offerings. For example, how did Radeon VII stack up with Vega 64 anr RX590? Vega 56 was clearly branded as being lower end compared to the Vega 64, but was it faster or slower than the Vega Nano? Was it on newer or older architecture/product node than RX590?
I do not agree in general. For example, RX 6400/6500 GPUs were just bad products, with missing features.
That said it doesn’t look like it should be the case with RX 9070 GPUs.
To have a good position in the market, I think they should price the parts so that they have at least 2-3% more price to performance ratio, where the performance is evaluated on the weak spots of AMD GPUs (ray tracing, upscaling…).
Seeing nVidia pricing, it feels like the RX 9070XT should be priced like an RTX 5060Ti to compete with the RTX 5070.
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Me neither. A lot of ewaste is produced and my comment about bad products was more satirical in nature.
As for the naming of things, we have different perspectives, but that is fine. I do look up reviews for any electronics product I might be willing to buy. I understand, not everybody does, and having a consistent and comparable naming scheme might help with that.
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Sorry I didn’t get it, my bad 
Because they have like 3 developers for milions of TV models to develop OSs that have to run on underpowered old microprocessing hardware
The Apple equivalent M4 Max isn’t already out, isn’t it? I don’t remember… I’m sure it’s not in the Mac Studio, though, so I don’t think an Apple equivalent of this product is out yet. And it won’t have the same target demographic…
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open source TV when? 
but yes, a little redundant when people who wish to avoid that can just plug in a PC, or NUC, or the like.
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any industrial display with open-something-something-module and a RPi insterted
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I’m sure that some stuff is already out that aims at being a TV OS, and it’s probably been in alpha for ages and it’s probably terrible for normies like basically 95% of open source software (sad but true)
Well, that OS is supposed to make it convenient for normal people to access streaming services and basic games. If you put old hardware and terrible software and force people to buy additional stuff, yo make everything more inconvenient, and you are basically producing e-waste. Better just build gigantic monitors, then
Not your typical 200$ Cotsco TV
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unfortunately
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I want to know what the 5090 will be priced in Europe.
true, sorry i was thinking something different but that is the way
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magic beans, not the other thing which people joke about giving for 
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This post was a bit insightful:
They’re basically trying to make it easier to compare a 9070 to a 5070 from nvidia (and also want to undercut it a bit).
Only in the MBP form factor. The Mac mini currently only has up to the M4 Pro with 64GB, which goes for $2k. The cheapest Mac Studio with 128GB (which is still on the M2 Ultra) goes for $4.8k
i’d say that there’s the weird LLM demographic that would grab any of those two, given that all they need is enough unified memory with reasonable bandwidth and a nice GPU, both that Digits, Apple products and even Strix Halo ought to deliver that.
I do expect 2700€ for the cheapest ones available that will go immediately out-of-stock. This is based on cheapest RTX 4090 costing 2000€ compared to the 1599$ MSRP that does not include VAT tax
I don’t think Strix Halo as on-board unified memory… does it?
Also, where is HBM? Nice memories…
I didnt make it through the whole thing.
the beginning was all a bunch of reassurances that intel knows what its doing and things are going to be okay.
and then it went into achievements, and datacenter. and i just didnt bother continuing after that