Your thoughts of the new style of Windows updates?

[Hammerhead_Corvette]

If this means that they vet the upgrades more

Windows users are the ones 'vetting' the upates...

[FizzyFantom]

Quite hard to talk an elderly person though this on the phone :)

[Grassyloki]

They need to fix that.I no joke have a windows 10 vm that exsists purely to update to the newest version of the preview and it is broken right now after not touching it for a month. It has nothing installed. Start menu and networking dont work. They need to hire back there testers and actually test this shit. Every update somthing is broke, its a joke. On the plus side it is driving linux adoption

[Big_Al_Tech]

Oh trust me ik.

[Grassyloki]

Hey man it gives me business. windows 10 is a love hate relationship.

[Baz]

Love how the topics link together again

Windows isn't the problem. You are

I see it all over the forums. "Windows messed up my partition.". "Windows fragmented my drives.". Windows did this and that and blah blah blah. Everything is messed up because of Windows. Look, here's the thing. No. Ever stop to think that Windows isn't at fault? Maybe it turns out you're either stupid, or just made a mistake, and you're looking to blame the easiest thing other than yourself? I've seen about five posts in the past week complaining about WinOS fragmenting drives. Holy crap, are you that ignorant? 1: Transferring multiple, large sets of data at once is going to be an issue; ESPECIALLY if it's around hundreds of gigabytes of data in all. It's not the OS causing the problem. The OS is doing what it was coded to do. You're the one being idiotic, pushing it to do something you very well know ISN'T in its job description, and then blaming it for doing a poor job. 2: Fragmentation? Are you kidding me? Most of the time Windows reports high fragmentation, it's VERY inaccurate. Some tests have shown most fragmentation estimates to be about 35% LESS than the number given. And on top of that, you would have to have done a really poor job with data management to fragment a drive so bad, that it hits the read/write accessibility like a truck. Windows isn't to blame. You are. Yes, Windows isn't very good at shit like this. The point is that YOU KNOW IT ISN'T and then blame the operating system AFTER YOU DID IT. YOU DID IT, not Windows.

[Grassyloki]

i just rebooted that windows 10 vm, there appears to be no bcd. i could not make this up

[MooTaters]

Hey man it gives me business. windows 10 is a love hate relationship.

Hah, couldn't help but laugh at that. I can only imagine what it has done, and the stories people have.

[Baz]

But let's all still remember to be civil, tounge-in-cheek stuff lol

[Freaksmacker]

lol ya ............. they are even worse than normal atm.

[Baz]

Desperate times calls for desperate measures or how was it

[Baz]

Refering to the Midas comment just look at this list, all they do is buy out competition because they're incompetent themselves lol

List of mergers and acquisitions by Microsoft

[Ramiel]

The new 'style' is 'fuck the end user.'

Windows Updates, the terrible future of M$

I was in the middle of this post and made the terrible mistake of running Windows updates while typing, but I haven't had issues in some time so I figured 'whatever.' A terrible mistake IDK WTF is going on at M$... but wow. \ Your recent update not only removed my MBR (as in, completely fucking deleted it), it also managed to blork the bootrec tool. After digging up my disc and getting it to work and fix my MBR issue, I come back to the wrong date and time (2008?) and this BS: [image] which I didn't install, and isn't on my add/remove list. Thanks M$, really. This is 'testing' in the new age for M$. Just leave the user to figure it out. I wouldn't doubt that I'll get calls for something like this later this week if it happens elsewhere. I constantly see posts here and elsewhere dealing with issues like 'I now get BSODs frequently' or 'My device drivers are missing' or 'I didn't install that' or, let's not forget my personal favorite: 'the new update made my machine unbootable' which is like every windows 10 machine I've dealt with. Its funny, because I have many users who say things like 'but I barely used it' and its difficult to explain to them how a shitty OS update caused the problem. Its hard to convince end-users they should keep their machines updated with shit like this happening constantly. On the other side of the coin, I'm complaining a lot but dumb stuff like this keeps me in business, with a constant flow of customers willing to pay 40$+ just to fix issues like this in a timely manner.

@Baz
I'm sorry but I no longer agree with that thread. You can't blame the end user if they didn't do anything but update their machine. It shouldn't be our job to have to check ever update that m$ puts out, that is something for large organizations but not end users, not 'the little guy.' Its hard to convince my customers to continue to keep their machines updated for security purposes with stuff like this happening constantly.
As I mention, inversely it keeps me in business. But I think stuff like this isn't the end user, its m$, and perhaps one day they will pay for it in the industry.

[Ctrl_Null]

This is the exact reason I started looking at Linux last month. I've been a win user since win3.1. I understand issues arise. But I paid 100$ for a os not to be a tester..

[Lauritzen]

I think M$ is trying abit to hard to cram updates down our throats.
It's really frustrating at times having these untested updates forced upon you at times, luckily i've come mostly unscraped through them sofar, other then it bricking a intel compute stick which still had warranty, a while back.
And the sheer number of updates, dear lord.

[anon63470048]

Doesn't MS have a non-stable staging area? I feel if they had that for users who need those updates RIGHT NOW and willing to risk the untested status then MS would cop allot less flak. Most Linux distros do things that way.

[Smerrills]

Yes, Windows has what is called Fast Track updates I believe and Slow ring. Basically, Fast track is most recent updates, and then the slow ring I think is the most stable.

Don't quote me on it, I could be thinking of something else, but I know it's similar. I run slow path on all of my systems except the one machine I used when I was an Insider for early Win 10.

[Zerophase]

They should just make a pacman wrapper, and gpl the windows update. At least the updates would install in a reasonable amount of time.

[DrunkByDefault]

windows is for masochists who enjoy getting fucked rituallistcally every first tuesday of the month. fucking weasels man how can you guys tolerate that bullshit. Boil the frog.

[Schyken]

Lol, I love you :P