Wooting 60HE and HID Ports

KVM Model:

SQ8415090

USB Interface (5-gigabit or 10-gigbit):

5-Gigabit


Problem:

The Wooting 60HE does not work on the HID port. It simply will not power on or react in any way, it’s as if it is not plugged in at all. I have tried disabling NKRO on the keyboard and that had no effect. I know that it is stated that the keyboard must be fully HID-compliant and I assume that is the root of the issue here. I believe this is probably a general problem with Wooting products, the only other post in this forum that references Wooting states that they can’t get their Wooting 2 to connect on the HID ports and had to move it to the USB 3 ports (they believed it was a power supply issue, I don’t believe that it is).

I guess my question is basically do you have any experience with Wooting keyboards, and would there appear to be any path to getting them to work as HID inputs to the/a KVM? Is there any information I can give you about the Wooting 60HE I have and how the system recognizes it that would be of any help?

As a seperate question, on a thread that dealt with keyboard issues on the HID ports (“glorious-gmmk2-not-working-on-hid-port-of-dp1-4-kvm”) I see it mentioned that the USB-HID ports are “soft cut over” and the USB 3 ports are “hard cut over.” Is it possible to have USB 3 ports “soft cut over,” or does that not make any sense?

I think I will ultimately keep this KVM (its performance switching the HID ports between machines is insanely good). I was hoping to utilize keyboard switching and also leverage the ability to have the K&M ports and USB 3.2 ports not follow each other, but I think I’m willing to compromise on both. (I also understand that I could find a different keyboard to use, but I don’t think I’m ready to do that quite yet.)

Other Notes:

Thanks in advance for the help!

One other finding, the newest Logitech Lightspeed that ships with the Logitech G PRO X SUPERLIGHT 2 shows a lot of stuttering at all reporting rates (125 Hz - 4000 Hz) when plugged into the HID port. The older Logitech Lightspeed receivers have no issues though - the one that shipped with all of their previous Lightspeed mice.

I see other people have mentioned issues with really high report rate mice. Thought it was interesting that turning down the report rate had no impact on stutterting.

I have no question related to this I guess this is just an FYI.

If you can flash qmk itll proably resolve the issue as long as it doenst have a built in usb hub inside the keyboard.

Can you post pics of the serial/item#? For rhe reciever. Also uninstall all logitech software from both pcs to see if that makes a difference. Usually software polling rate mismatch bwtwen hosts can be a source or percieved stutter but genrtally 4khz polling is fine.

Logitech had one run of bad hardware caught in qc they never actually sold, but showed up on ebay with srial #s scratched out. And those were not fun to try to support…but that was years ago

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No built in USB hub on the keyboard, but it (and other Wooting keyboards) is one of those analog Hall Effect switch keyboards. As far as I can tell no one’s attempted and documented flashing QMK on a Wooting - their main selling point is the fancy stuff they can do with the analog switches and the on-board controller. Their firmware is actually open-source at GitHub > WootingKb > wooting-analog-sdk as it turns out.

Popular brand in gaming, but I don’t think there’s a huge volume of these keyboards out in the wild. Not sure if it’s worth your time to look into, but thought I’d throw my observation out there. I’m using the keypad specific HID port for control now and am happy enough with that work flow at this point.

Here’s photos of the front and back of the Logitech Lightspeed Receiver I was using that had stuttering (I believe the text is as legible as it is to me looking at it in person, but if you’re not sure on a character let me know):


EDIT: Also forgot to add - no Logitech software running (G Hub, Options, or Options+)

Thanks for the info :slight_smile: I’m not sure about this one, but thank you for point this information out!

For now, we have had success creating a KVM hotkey switcher out of a macropad.

You’re welcome!

Also, re: the Superlight 2 receiver - one thing I think that’s worth pointing out is Logitech designed those Ligthspeed receivers to have a keyboard and mouse paired to one receiver. I know you guys got Unifying receivers to work, but this at least is the major difference from the old Lightpseed Receiver (other than the increased available polling rates).

And yeah I ended up using small programmable keypads as switcher devices, that works very well!

For the sake of someone finding this thread in the future and looking for ideas/closure, my setup is:

  • A G Pro Superlight (instead of the Superlight 2 which had stuttering issues) plugged into one of the mouse/keyboard HID ports.

  • The Wooting 60HE plugged into the USB3 header on the KVM.

  • A MK321-Pro (3-key pad sold under various brandings) hooked up to the other mouse/keyboard HID ports and I used its software to program keyboard hotkeys to it.

  • A Vaydeer “One-Handed Macro Keyboard - 4 Programmable Keys” hooked up to the keypad-specific HID port and I used its software to program keypad hotkeys to it.

Basically the only drawbacks are slightly slower switching over of the Wooting 60HE in comparison to the mouse (talking about a second or two) and you can’t utilize the ability of this specific KVM model to have your USB3 header stick to one machine while the KM/Audio/Network swap around.

Even with those drawbacks I have not seen a KVM that works this well to sync “gaming” peripherals between computers without sacrificing device performance - really struggled to find any that were fit-for-purpose.

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