Anyone here remember the old saying people said (Where the fuck is Pascal?). I want to know where Vega is lately seeing that it was suppose to have come out at Q1 2017 because for reasons beyond my comprehension, they decided to re-release Polaris as an RX 500 series card like the RX 580 is a 480 basically, much like how an R9 390 was a 290 except at least 8 GB R9 390s were much more common whereas the R9 290 came with 4 GB VRAM pretty much.
The only thing good that could come out would be an RX 560 stomping the RX 460 and an RX 550 filling in the spot for the RX 460. But other than the low tier cards, why they decided to re release a GPU knowing that they have Vega and NVidia's GTX 1070 is already ahead of anything AMD has, never-mind the GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 Ti.
I guess Ryzen really set them back on GPUs, at least they have phenomenal CPUs but not so good GPUs, the opposite of where AMD was 3 years ago I must say, as for GPUs they were in league with NVidia, but the FX CPUs were behind Intel's.
base price for the 580 is $230 and the base price for a 4gb 480 was like $200 technically but really it was $240+ since miners bought literally all of them for the first 3 months so yeah
Ayyy, I really envy you guys in the US, the base price here in Spain doesn't apply that well, you gotta add the taxes (IVA) which is 21% and whatever the websites want. So yeah, while 'muricans get their 1070s for 400 bucks here we pay 550.
Uh, Vega was originally for 2016 but that got delayed, I was fine then, but when they rebrand a card, I am under the impression that they are going to sit on it until 2018 or something like that. And considering NVidia is not only ahead of AMD they are multiple tiers ahead in GPU performance, meaning AMD is slipping, perhaps they put so much into Zen, which that in itself was a great thing, but when a GTX 1070 outperforms anything AMD has except for the Fury X (even then the GTX 1070 trades blows with the Fury X). And then the GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 Ti.
And if Vega is coming out at 1H 2017, then what was the point of rebranding the RX 480, they couldn't make the RX 580 Vega based along with the RX 590 or Vega X (Fury X2)?
My theory might be that AMD simply wanted to make the naming scheme more consistent, the Vega GPU set to come out might be an RX 590 and then the top tiers like the Fury cards were.
lolno and before you say anything, if it's based on leaks from We cant confirm F all tech (WCCFtech) , it doesnt mean a whole lot because they are literally a rumor spinning site.
I disagree about videocardz. They are better but the overall point still stands.
To get back on topic though, Vega was never scheduled for 2016. All roadmaps, even old ones, have Vega in 2017.
To remarket it and resell it? Polaris is still totally competitive in the midrange. Vega is a high end architecture. There is no need to replace Polaris.
You sort have hit the nail on the head. They try to keep the naming consistent and to keep an entire line of "current" generation GPUs. As bad as it sounds the average consumer is dumb. If he sees 400 series GPUs he'll think they are old and competitive. Now there is a complete line of 500 series cards depending on where your budget is.
Its marketing. Polaris launched a year ago. Telling people to buy something old like that, even if it is the same, isn't great marketing. The process also has improved and they have added some new features like memory changes so it makes sense
They did exactly the same thing with the 300 series. Most of the 300 series were rebrands with Fury on top.
lol, yes, What was the figure @fouquin mentioned a couple of months ago, wccftech had published something like 312 articles of pure speculation on Ryzen over the course of a year? They're not just a rumor mill, they're a factory xD
WCCFTech weren't the only ones though saying it was for Q4 2016 release date, but apperantly wherever I found that, may not be true given the roadmaps.
Yeah but the R9 200s cards held their own so well, AMD could practically get away with that (seriously, R9 290 beat out the GTX 780 and the GTX 780 Ti was $200 more for barely more performance) AND they added Fury and Fury X which held it's own against GTX 980 and GTX 980 Ti, last time AMD were able to compete on the high tier cards. Even still rebranding those cards wasn't a bright idea cause some of those cards were 3rd degree rebrands like the R9 380X. But at least though these cards performed against the competitor.
Where as Pascal was a large jump over Maxwell so those same AMD cards don't do well against them. So AMD comes out with the first iteration of Polaris, nice and dandy that they have such low TDP compared to an R9 390, but they were basically worse than Pascal, the GTX 1060 gave the RX 480 a run for it's money, and that's a mid-range Pascal card vs the best Polaris card and I know Polaris is budget oriented, but we have nothing from AMD besides that now. I mean Fury and Fury X are practically their most performing GPUs.
