The parents: uninformed
The academics: incorrect
The news: fake
The victims: navelgazing
The legislators: cryptofascists
The industry experts: also cryptofascists
It’s kind of a dark world you’re living in. Even the Soviets had a saying: trust, but verify.
So it’s just speculation on your part that its an easy thing to do and all computers can do it. Thanks for clarifying.
Seems Meta is the biggest force pushing these laws. Heritage Foundation is another group pushing these laws. Israel has its fingerprints all over this, of course, just as they have been pushing laws to criminalize speech critical of their nation. What that nation does with information and vulnerabilities and IP cameras to people they decide to target is pretty terrifying. They are not pleased with how many Americans do not support their actions and they have no limits when it comes to targeting Americans who dare exercise the First Amendment.
Americans are building the tools of their own destruction before a foreign government that is not exactly known for “child safety” if you know what I mean.
Lol, lmao even
Hard to take you seriously when you are so hell bent on arguing in bad faith… to the point of hand-waving non-consensual deep fake pornography of minors!
You sure showed me!
Better to not respond at all if you’re not here for an intellectually honest discussion.
Just out of curiosity, this took 20 seconds to find and suggests what I’m describing is not only in the realm of possibility but actively being marketed.
When you start the “intellectual” part of the conversation let me know and I’ll jump right in.
Edited to add: you can add all the fancy adjectives you like and link all the marketing campaigns under the sun. The simple fact at the end of the day is that I (and many others here) will not accept government spyware to be installed on every computer in our country because someone somewhere might get deepfaked .
ai might do some neat tricks. but as time goes on, this is all building up to be a horrific shit show.
letting the line worshipping cultists and “leaders” that have no concept of time beyond the next election get their hands on it is not gonna end well.
its shaping up to be a consensus manufacturing machine that will likely be the undoing of the human species.
this isn’t the normal oh they’re lying and we’ll find out about the data breach in a year or two dread…this is gonna be the shit lovecrafts monsters have nightmares about.
Agreed. This is a huge deal.
Good thing nobody including legislators is discussing that. Just you.
That is exactly what is being proposed here. Full stop.
I think it would be very helpful if you read the California bill, which does not propose installation of any kind. Kind of hard to argue against something that you have apparently refused to read…
I have read it and the other bills of its ilk. I have also written to my local and federal government reps speaking out against it. I will continue to do so.
Existing law generally provides protections for minors on the internet, including the California Age-Appropriate Design Code Act that, among other things, requires a business that provides an online service, product, or feature likely to be accessed by children to do certain things, including estimate the age of child users with a reasonable level of certainty appropriate to the risks that arise from the data management practices of the business or apply the privacy and data protections afforded to children to all consumers and prohibits an online service, product, or feature from, among other things, using dark patterns to lead or encourage children to provide personal information beyond what is reasonably expected to provide that online service, product, or feature or to forego privacy protections.
This bill, beginning January 1, 2027, would require, among other things related to age verification with respect to software applications, an operating system provider, as defined, to provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder, as defined, to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device for the purpose of providing a signal regarding the user’s age bracket to applications available in a covered application store and to provide a developer, as defined, who has requested a signal with respect to a particular user with a digital signal via a reasonably consistent real-time application programming interface regarding whether a user is in any of several age brackets, as prescribed. The bill would require a developer to request a signal with respect to a particular user from an operating system provider or a covered application store when the application is downloaded and launched.
Enough fear mongering. In the Windows context a minimal implementation can be storing a user’s age using [1, 2, 3, 4] as a registry key where 4 denotes all users aged 18+ and 1-3 provide age gradients similar to the ESRB system for video games… which we all know caused the collapse of liberal democracy, irreparably harmed consumers, and scarred a generation of children in North America. 
Not fear mongering any more than you are. This legislature is dangerous and a very slippery slope.
Yes, nothing new there, but nobody can quite explain how or why. I remain unconvinced, and judging by the lack of visible opposition to these bills, so do the electorate in the West generally.
Addressing a problem requires its identification, but the detractors of such bills have not successfully formulated a compelling statement of the problem (i.e., a reasonable argument against the bill).
Personally I think banning children from brain rotting social media is a great move. I just see this as expanding the plumbing to accomplish similar age gating on apps, importantly local inference as I pointed out earlier.
An added benefit: in theory it also centralizes the PII in the hands of the most reputable (low bar…) companies in the personal computing supply chain.
Private companies already store PII and suck at it, and good luck holding individual developers to (financial) account for bad security practices.
This regulates the storing of primitive PII we already use online today, in a manner that maximizes end user privacy (binning vs discrete age) while providing a mechanism for the public to hold somebody in the supply chain to account for security issues (vendor of operating system: msft, aapl, etc).
The signal emitted by this system may absolve, for example, porn companies from engaging the processing of government ID for verification purposes. This would result in a net benefit to privacy versus the current legislative regime that has seen some content providers geoblock US states entirely, while preserving the historical tendency for the nanny state to control the forms of entertainment that children consume. Sort of half dozen of one, six of the other on whether it’s safer having one giant target for PII or a thousand small ones who may be doing nothing at all for security.
Personally I’d rather give the info up to Microshit than Aylo, but that’s just me daydreaming.
just something to think about and please take it with some salt and humor even when it’s with a lot truth inside.
what about operating systems like rosa or deepin ? will our russian and chinese comrades follow the us-regulations (and sadly our europeans are as stupid) ?
i doubt !
meanwhile i feel my data’s are better safe at the russian or chinese agency’s then at the zuckerbergs,musks and all the other orangatans
my tip : download one of their distros, just in case.
note: this post may contain humor that isn’t compatible to everyone and some sad truth
Pushing porn too the bad guys peddling adult porn to kids is not the answer.
Back to doxing fools having a look and achieving nothing.
Kali linux exists for a reason.
Also doxin adults from porn sites is not intelligent as well. Like the sites are barely legal as well.
Simple fix is start doxing judges / politicians fast before the bad guys do it to lock them into blackmail.
And those same signals would make it much easier to silence whistleblowers. It would also make it much easier to search out and silence “thoughtcrime”.
Depends on the signal.
For now, is just and age key
And, also for now, not independently verified.
Slippery slope may increase verbosity of keys that are transmitted though.
And, as previously mentioned, Apple, and Google, already have this for their devices/app stores, via parental settings.
This basically just enforces they are turned on for adults, and minors, for systems outside the Apple/Google fields.
Meta knows the government people neither know, nor care about the implications for ordinary people who need their anonymity to be able to tell the truth to the lies/crimes of the peoples who enact and enforce the laws