Thanks. No, just the UI. I think when a package provides a docker or docker compose instructions getting a gui options for that would make the most sense? So we don’t depend on someone making a helm chart? Or does it not work that way?
Is the UI just oddly broken for manually adding arbitrary contianer x?
Did your install use the same IP as the truenas machine or did it get it’s own IP via bridge?
It’s possible without the hassle you had to go through, all that’s needed is setting a Port and Forwarding it to provide access via the Host’s IP. If a separate IP / Interface is needed there are options to set that up.
Any Arguments or Environment Variables needed can also be set through the UI during installation, see here (this was just a minimal installation with not much configured, though working):
A TrueCharts App is not a replacement for a Docker Container, just an easier, more automated way to set one up, as it takes into consideration the underlying Kubernetes.
It exposes the relevant settings for Kubernetes and Docker that the particular container needs in a more readable way for less experienced users and does some work in the background.
For Example, the Networking Section can be as simple as this, how it comes pre-configured:
But the GUI for the App also has options to set things up for a ClusterIP, that is available only internally to connect it to another Docker running Traefik or other advanced configurations.
Check out the Section to Configure Ingress with a few settings:
Why not describe both Options?
For Beginners, using the TrueCharts Helms is much easier and will make it easier to understand what’s being configured.
For Advanced Users, Setting up the Docker manually via the GUI will work well and give deeper insight.
A Wiki Post for Global Configuratin on the “Apps” Section in TrueNAS Scale and how to get started with it would probably also be a good idea, I’ll volunteer for it.
I think it’d be better in the long term than your method, as in both cases these configs will actually get stored in the database file of TrueNAS Scale, are easy to back up / restore and won’t have a chance to break during updates.
I’ve been working with TrueNAS Scale and have been exploring this a bit more.
If one wants to install Navidrome as a Docker Container, not using TrueCharts, and expose outside of TrueNAS Scale, there are two easy Options:
I’m running Emby right now on TruNas core using the plugin. It works pretty well but controlling other devices from it doesn’t work well and some devices don’t read from it’s DLNA service.
Is Navidrome better than Emby?
thats a good question. community want to try some things with devices and whatnot?
I generally use Emby DLNA service to play music over my Yamaha receiver with Musiccast. The browse interface in Musiccast with DLNA is terrible so I end up making playlists in Emby that I queue up from Musiccast.
It would be great to use Emby or Navidrome interface to control the music playing to the Yamaha stereo. With Emby I can get it to play one song with DLNA control from Emby in the browser but then it just stops. Not sure if that’s a problem with Emby or Yamaha
Thanks! Super-interesting 
This would be Wireguard right?
I ran into the same issue it was when I ran the docker without any volumes to test it and I let the users pid.
When I removed the user pid it disapeared.
@wendell
Thank you for all of the guides you are making.
I am, however, stuck on the step before - setting up my home sever / NAS. Main reason is that I’m not yet confident enough about setting up storage sever, and then pushing it into production.
I know you have made several videos in the series, but could you make an overview guide with pros and cons of distributions, software and hardware requirements for various applications, e.g. I am interested in simple and reliable NAS with SSD caching and ability to run few virtual machines and containers, and I’m using Fedora as main distro.
Also when making builds, can you give explicit suggestions for hardware e.g. we need X for ECC support, since I can’t find a lot of hardware items available.
Thanks in advance,
Pandemoneus
Just want to point out that this solution (navidrome + vpn) fails with all company laptops. There’s no way that the IT will allow you to install a vpn client.
If you are looking for a solution for that then you will need to reverse proxy with a public IP.
You all are a bit too focused on details. I’d like to point out that Pornophonique album there, it’s great.
I’ve seen this zerotier thing and recently Lawrence did a homelab show about it:
He said it could traverse internal networks easily and cleanly and could actually be used for red teaming or maybe less maliciously, navidrome streaming.
While looking for an iOS client for the Navidrome server, it occurred to me that Navidrome isn’t the only streaming service in the Open Source ecosystem. There is also:
Subsonic
Funkwhale
Navidrome
Jellyfin, etc
So is Navidrome the best-ish of the category server-wise? Or are there “better” alternatives? I guess the client UI isn’t really important because you should be just playing it in the background?
What about the clients? Koel seems nice for iOS, but it is paid. What are you guys using for iOS?
I personally use Jellyfin for Music, it’s amazing at organizing music and requires less perfect tagging.
Finamp is a great App for Mobile Streaming on Android.
Also, check out the list of Navidrome Apps in their Docs, there is four Options for iOS:
With my experience, Navidrome is the newer than most of these, less jank and is compatible with the Subsonic API, so you can actually use any Subsonic client.
I used airsonic-advanced prior to this. Well actually I used DS Audio on Synology but they broke it with some updates mid last year and have so far not bothered to fix it again, despite having bug reports submitted and my searching showing others having the same issues. Anyway my music library is relatively large at around 200k files and airsonic was SLOW. Super slow, to the point it would time out loading large libraries and if it ever did that would require the docker container to be restarted. But eventually the cache would build itself up and after many many restarts I could browse my library, but even then, if too much was added to a playlist at once it would crash. Synching and loading were also slow all the time no matter what, I’ve been told the use of java is what does this. I gave navidrome a shot after seeing the L1 video on it and damn if within a minute of first spinning up the container I was able to connect remotely over mobile and being browsing/playing tracks, the directory of music already scanned loaded near instantly as well. Very impressive.
My only question mark with navidrome is browsing the shares by the original folder structure, which is a massive dealbreaker for me. I’m using DSUB for android which does have the option to browse by folder using the subsonic API, but it appears that navidrome ignores this setting and still only uses tags. Is there any way around this? Or perhaps a navidrome fork that allows it? It doesn’t have to be navidrome either, just as long as it doesn’t choke on big libraries, offers transcoding and has directory browsing I’m happy. DS Audio was genuinely fanstastic for my use case which still makes me mad to think about.
Hello,
so like yourself I had this issue where navidrome wouldn’t deploy.
I got this working but the storage Folder’s had to have ACL rules applied to them, I also found this out the hard way when trying to do any virtualization libqemu user needed added to the ACL list for the share.
So I revisted this because it was bugging me really bad, turns out someone solved my issue already.
The popular containers in the docker repos have a small java heap space allocated, which is fine for small libraries, but bigger libraries will struggle. Increasing the heap space with the variable “JVM_HEAP” and giving it a value of something bigger, I chose “3000m”, though you probably don’t need this much… It instantly solved my problems. Airsonic now loads and searches instantly, even with my current library of 150k tracks. It offers all the goodies navidrome does too.
Also lesson learned, if I just read the logs to begin with I would’ve been able to diagnose and solve this myself. Next time…
Is there a way for Navidrome to support FLACSs? I copy and pasted my music collection (mostly FLACs) into the Navidrome folder and I cant seem to be able to play them.
I quickly dug around (before going to work) and saw things in the settings like transcode and I am wondering if I did something wrong and my Navidrome is just plain misconfigured and I had to do a redo to fix is or playing FLACs arent supported initially and MP3 are better suited to it.
So I tried doing this but switched it up a little. I followed the guide on setting a VM and Portainer, then added Navidrome via Portainer.
I created a NFS share docker-nfs and mounted in the VM. I tested and it is accessible. Within that docker-nfs dataset, I created a child dataset called navidrome, then ones under it called data and music and referenced those in the docker compose for the volumes.
I had the music stored on another pool which is a SMB share so I can access it from the Windows machines in my network, so I used the TrueNAS Scale CLI to
cp /mnt/fudge/smbshare/Music /mnt/moomoo/docker-nfs/navidrome/music.
(Please forgive my pool names, it was VERY late when I set them up and I had the flu).
I originally had the “error disabling foreign keys” issue a few have referenced but got beyond it by removing the user pid. Navidrome is running and accessible (at least from inside the network, haven’t tested Tailscale yet). However, there is no music in the library.
Navidrome:
The weird thing is, the music is there when I run ls on the TrueNAS Scale CLI but it is not showing up when I SSH into the VM and look:
TrueNAS Scale:
VM:
Additionally, the reverse is true: the Navidrome files in /data cannot be seen in the TrueNAS Scale CLI but show up in the VM itself:
TrueNAS Scale:
VM:
I’m guessing either I have screwed something up with NFS or this is some kind of ACL issue. I tried applying the NSF4_OPEN preset on the docker-nfs dataset, and on the docker-nfs/navidrome, docker-nfs/navidrome/data, and docker-nfs/navidrome/music datasets (unsure if this is actually a good idea but I think it’s okay since this box is not exposed to the internet???) but that did not fix the issue.
ACL permissions for everyone@ for these datasets:
Anyone have any suggestions? I have obviously screwed something up but I can’t figure out how.
EDIT0: Tailscale seems to be working. I have the router advertising the correct subnet route and can ping the VM using the external Tailscale IP. I can also access Navidrome by going to [external Tailscale IP]:4355.
