Ryzen Ram OC nightmare 2018 June/July UPDATE! 3600MHZ REACHED! Check updates at the bottom of the post! SOLVED! 29/06/2018

Update! (2018 June)

I now have the Asus Hero Crosshair VI. I now have my 1800x stable at 1.450V @4.150! Also have my RAM at 3466 stable rock solid!

Now the big question for all of you!?

I can post and run benches at 3600mhz, even 3666mhz with Volts at 1.460 (ouch right) but! I get random crashes with BSOD’s and diferent errors each time to the eventually get back to memory related then full system instability and failure to post after the 5-6th time it crashes and goes to post then shuts down and so on to then have to do a CMOS clear to try it all over again. I get about 5 mins into games at these speeds and crash to desktop otherwise but hitting some crazy Cinebench numbers in stress testing (average of 3 tests back to back.) 1852cb scores even lol.

What am in doing wrong to not get full stability!? 3466mhz in the bios pre-set profile easy click and go! 3600mhz pre-set click and go but random instability issues!? I’ve also tried the Ryzen RAM OC Calculator software and same problem with the reccomended and alt settings, so i’m at a loss right now.

I’m running the same RAM just with this new beast of a board now. I can hit 4.20ghz on the CPU but at 1.460V easily and rock solid stable but the volts i’m a bit iffy about for 24/7 hence why i’m on 4.150ghz (or 1.45535V for 4.075ghz) for the CPU instead at 1.450V.

Can someone please, god please, help me with timings and stability please! I’m setting up my Youtube channel soon and if someone can help me acheive atleast 3600/3666 as well rock solid i’m going to do a how to video step by step and also mention who ever helped me acheive this along with a mention to Level one Techs obviously too!

Please guys help me get theses timings out to the public and lets show the community that super high RAM speeds are really acheivable and to show the community how to exactly acheive these with RYZEN finally!

Please any ideas would help and i can do these in real time as i’ll be on my laptop at the same time as trying everything with your comments while on the PC. I also have a discord server, so if you want to hop on mic we can do this is real time too!

Please guys help!

Check the MSI website. Look at the laters UEFI versions and see if they have any RAM improvements.
Other than that, and the fact the MSI board have the worst X370 VRMs, I don’t really see a reason not to go there with the OC.
Seriously though, check the website, look at some reviews and what not and see what people have used as UEFI to reach those speeds.

PS: NOPE, I’ve been thinking of a different board. Those VRM’s are fine :smiley:

Was it the Gigabyte board you where thinking of? The entry level X370 Gaming Pro Gigabyte board has that issue. The MSI is ok but not great but VRM’s can take up to 4000mhz. Should have bought the Asus Hero board in heinsight. But yeah RAM is fully supported, (had Ripjaws V and Hynix before, could only get 2666mhz no matter what I tried) 32gb kit too. The Trident Z 16gb kit are best possible match.

P.s Using the latest bios from last year already.

No, it was actually the high end MSI - power gaming titanium. The pro carbon have better VRM than the almost twice as expensive Power gaming Titanium.

Oh wow really!? I was tossing up on getting that now to fix the issue.

So there’s one concern covered.

Thank you!

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What sort of 3466 timings are you running now? and do you mean that 3600 “works” but cold boot just refuses to work

I got a single post to flash screen and it hung there. (The pic of the car in dos) @3600

3466 is almost perfectly stable. Timings are 18 19 19 19 39.
Im confused on the coding system with MSI an not all Jdec marry up with MSI in the bios as well. This is where I need the help.

The Asus boards are basically Jdec verbatim but MSI have done their own thing and Jdec only matches up in certain parts and not others for command and turn around codes. I hope I’m making sense?

I can get 3466 16-16-16-16-21-37, but 3600 18-21-37 just refuses to work

SoC voltage clears some oddity and fixes cold boots, if thats the thing where shutdown and start fails, but restart works fine

Thank you I’ll have a look at that once I’ve had a sleep as it 1am here lol. But it’s 3600 I’m going for now. I’ve found 1.45 Volts is the sweet spot on the ram. The SOC was on 1.0 then 1.1 no post. Back to auto and post weirdly enough.

But 3466 GTA V 2 hrs one crash, reboot and stable for over 2hrs at 4k. So 3466 not really an issue now.

It’s the push for 3600. If I can reach that with 18 19 19 19 39 I’ll be crying with happiness!

Ah I see!! Great, so you recommend 1.2 volts yeah? (On SOC)

Warframe and Destiny 2 have been the most aggressive tests I have played, like that last crash for tRFC happens after random amount of time and +1 fixes that one, but crashes before that happen within minutes

I smoked wayy too much while thinkering sticks, like going for smoke between every Civ V turn :smiley:

Lol I’ve been doing the same! 30pack in one day, so stressful this process!

Quickest way to find if its working is to just boot to Windows, restart back to Windows, then shutdown and back to Windows

There is very little stability testing outside of that, like 3 different settings :man_shrugging:t2:

So yeah if you can help me get to stable cold boot 3600 I’ll be forever grateful!

3466 I’ll work on those minor settings tomorrow to get rock sold cold boot stability. Once again thank you!

If you have any ideas on 3600 I’d be elated to see if they work.

I’ll check back with you tomorrow with results of your recommendations and if you have any idea of how I can achieve 3600 on the back of this please let me know.

Ok off to sleep finally. Talk soon

I cant do more than that step by step guide and its the first part what determines that part

Oh, and that points out important factor, those other settings stay identical regardless what speed you end up going

Like if you give up, you may still want to go through them with 3200 sticks, they will work with 3600 or 4000 sticks

Ok fantastic, I’ll definitely get back to you once I’ve implemented those fixes and hopefully we have awesome success!

Talk soon.

Ok one issue still remains,

I can’t find the LLC setting in the bios?

I have bought 4000 sticks as well, actually exactly the same Trident-Z CL18 2x8 kit. Idea was to try to get a bit more than 3200 stable and be ready for Ryzen2 (or plus or whatever) in april. Plan to switch from 1600X to 2800X or so. So I will test my luck in the coming days.

Google whats load line calibration’s name with your motherboard

Thats basically the tolerance how much voltage can adjust, and honestly, havent ever had any reason to use anything but the least variation one, and the other end which allows more variation has just caused more heat and is really scary when its suddenly peaking +0.1v+