I was very disappointed with pricing out of the gate, but still bought two. Just as good or more frequently better than the 1080Ti for my use case so still worth it. Also wanted to support AMD breaking into the higher end graphics cards again. Sick of nvidia for a while and the competition was worth it. I paid an extra 60 US over the 2 game pack MSRP.
I hesitated and thought about going with the 1080 Ti which cost me a limited edition. So I got a Limited and black. Wonder how that is going to look in the new build… lol
eh, unless you watercool anyway in which case reference is basically the way to go because a) cheaper (most of the time) then custom boards and b) earlier availability of blocks (as in: at launch).
Back to topic though:
The MSRP is pretty reasonable given the performance they have (they are comparable to 1070 and 1080 which AMD was shooting for). But as Ryan mentioned in the benchmark video, noone should buy these cards at current retail price. Buy them at MSRP if you can get them anywhere, current retail prices are retarded for all GPUs.
The Radeon Packs are problematic. I already mentioned it in the news video last week, getting them can net you a higher price then buying the cheapest parts. For example you have to get a 1700X or 1800X to be eligible, not the 1700, and you have to get the GB K7 instead of the 5 (though yes, not the cheapest board, and it’s basically the same board), or the C6H, or the Titanium which are even more expensive.
Also the monitor is not available outside the US, Canada and Singapore.
The prices AMD suggests are fine, but what drives the prices in retail is supply and demand, don’t blame AMD for that (“JUST PRODUCE MORE” comments incoming, but it’s a) not how it works and b) not that easy, so stop it).
My brief check in Australia is putting Vega64 @ $950AUD and 1080 cards are $750-900AUD and nvidia card include after market good cooling solutions. Will have to see how the pricing pans out in the next few months.
I would never buy a reference card and vega runs hot and lots of power need so you really should wait for custom boards and cooling solutions. Maybe some better aftermarket BIOS letting the power limits be raised.
Overclockers.co.uk stated on their forum they sold the first 1000 (they actually sold more to fill the orders) to honour their agreement with AMD before increasing the price. Other retailers didn’t. They also hinted they lost money on those cards and at the “standard” price they only make single figure profit on each card sold now.
Sold at £449.00 increased to £549 about an hour after launch They sold em quick!
In the Netherlands they have stil no stock , and place holder? prices are around E950,- witch is insane. So a 1080Ti it is for "just " E709,- . Witch leafs me E240,- for a waterblock + pomp/resservoir.
if you just need a gpu this add 100$ get a discount thing is bs.
if you are looking at getting a good gpu and monitor and want freesync or gsync then this is a very good deal. freesync is already significantly cheaper then gsync and getting what is basically msrp card price + monitor - 100$ is a good deal. if you need a ryzen system too then it’s a great deal.
if you have a newer gpu you probably shouldnt stick with it. if you have a realy old gpu chances are you have a really old cpu and while the cpu discount alone with no monitor isnt really worth it, it might be if you cant wait and their are none available because mining.
or you could just buy the msrp card with no rebate shit.
pcper allready pointed out that this info is crap. AMD already that this isnt true in any way. Its not AMD nor is it the Miners driving the prices up, its just simply the retaiers that are trying to milk out their customers as they know demand is very high right now.
I only saw that last night, and kicked myself for not checking their forum.
Oh well… there’s no more reference stock now, guess I’ll have to wait for the AIB ones to land.
limited availability of the deal is legit, but re read it and i think you’ll see “unless you wanted it in the first place” is what i wrote in different words.
and i found it in the uk, us, australia, newzealand, and then gave up checking country’s because im tired and going to bed.
Well, if this turns out not to be some miscommunication or non news, then fuck VEGA.
All ready an hard sell. Slightly cheaper (msrp)originally than a 1070 or 1080, only just the same performance (swings and roundabouts), more power use to way more power use depending on settings, and now a price hike all ready with a bullshit PR reasoning dodge.
Nope Vega is not worth it at all anymore. And it was only just about justifiable in the first place at at.
That sucks.
As for the mining thing in relation to this, from the way things are all ready going and the price of cards right now any way, miners won’t care. This only serves to dissuade the gamers.
Nope. I have no corner in this. I wanted to see so.e competition and a relevant card on the market.
Supply and demand are fine, if a lot of people want it of course the price will rise, that I have no problem with. If miners want to buy up all the cards and the prices go up as a result of that, that’s normal, maybe not the best situation but understandable and fine really.
But having a price set that gets into all the reviews and headlines as the price the cards are going to be and then not a week later, before they are even released, increasing the price that is not a good thing. That is deliberately misleading people.
There still seems to be a bit of a debate if this increase came from AMD or not. The original post says it came from AMD, Cornholio’s mention of PCPer seems to contradict that. So unless we get some proof from somewhere this isn’t going anywhere. And my guess is still that it’s the retailers.
And that is exactly why I qualified my post with if this turns out not to be some miscommunication or non news.
The information seems shaky at the moment. It definitely warrants looking into further and if if turns out this is just regular supply and demand increase then fine, if if is sellers it is shady will be found out and shamed, but if it is from AMD that is just not cool.
It is basically just using reviewers to spread false prices.
They sold em quick!
