RTX 2070 SUPER, RTX 2080 or RTX 2080 SUPER? (Trying to decide.)

You definitely assumed correctly! Not tyring to be harsh or anything, but to me it seems totally stupid to have more than 1 drive in some cases. Why not just put everything on 1 BIG drive unless you disagree otherwise? :wink:

You can totally do that, just doesnt seem to make sense to me when you can get 2 for significantly less money. If you dont like that idea, more power to you.

the 2070 super will do very well with these titles. I dont think you will have any problem with it.

Don’t beat yourself up about RTX support at this point. The feature is there, but it’s barely an experiment compared to upcoming 7nm Nvidia GPU’s RTX feature set.

The 7nm late 2020 Nvidia offerings will render first generation RTX cards doa. And I’m saying this with insider knowledge.

But do you think for this scenario the RTX 2080 or the RTX 2080 SUPER for that matter would be “overkill”? :thinking:

Well, future proofing is a fools errand. Get what you need now and upgrade later is usually the mantra. Those games arent specifically demanding. Would it be overkill? maybe. I recently went full custom loop with the 3900x and 2080ti and I basically have been playing factorio (not on that machine just yet but I will).

Theres no kill like overkill.

The 2080 and 2080 Super will just give you a smoother baseline experience. If you plan on using the FreeSync support you will anyhow have to bracket your framerate to 48-144hz refresh rate range. ( I checked up the refresh rate range for your picked monitor)

Just don’t buy them with the intent of using them for RTX featureset at high frame rates in upcoming titles.

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yeah basically this ^^

RT even on the 2080ti will likely put you well below your 144 cap.

Well, I DO want to experience the ray tracing hype as this will be my 1st ever desktop & my 1st custom-build. Besides, I don’t think I’ll have any issues using the monitor I have chosen. :slight_smile: (I mainly chose it because the 1 I had in mind had a price increase & so I was back to looking at other options. I could just forget the MSI monitor & try to find something about like it with Gsync, but I don’t think I’ve seen much so far.)

Doom 2016 4k on 5700XT

Standard 2070 on Doom 2016 1080 to 1440p (2k)

Side by side for a bunch of them

You will want a 2080 super if you really want the better RTX performance. Theres no issue with the monitor.

Gsync is basically dead at this point and freesync works on nvidia gpus so its not a problem.

You can totally use freesync on nvidia cards these days. G-sync is just extra expensive.

Personally if I were making this build, I’d get the most balla CPU+RAM+PSU & Mobo possible and cheap out on the GPU with a 5700 / XT.

With all my builds the GPU anyhow got upgraded not long down the line, so I never opted for the top SKU’s. Best performance/dollar is always:

IF Next Gen released then
 (Next Gen (Top SKU -1)) 
  (Second hand current Gen (Top SKU -1)) 

If you’re price-sensitive, for 1440p I would get a 2060S. It’s basically a 2070, meaning it’s basically a 1080.

If you want to spend more money, the 2070S is a far better value than the 2080S and should pretty much smoke 1440p. The 2070 and 2080 are EOL and should only be purchased if you get a really amazing deal.

2080 is not EOL, TU104-400 supply will continue to exist since they are binned from the same die as 2080 Super and 2070 Super.
2070 is also not EOL since it’s the top SKU TU106-400.

EOL? O.o Could someone enlighten me? I 've heard this term before.

End of Life

Nvidia’s current chip lineup:


Name Chip Die Size SP Node
NVIDIA TITAN RTX TU102-400-A1 754 mm² 4608 12nm
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Unlocked TU102A 754 mm² 4352 12nm
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti TU102 754 mm² 4352 12nm


Name Chip Die Size SP Node
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 SUPER TU104-450 545 mm² 3072 12nm
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Unlocked TU104A-400 545 mm² 2944 12nm
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 TU104-400 545 mm² 2944 12nm
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER TU104-410 545 mm² 2560 12nm


Name Chip Die Size SP Node
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Unlocked TU106A-400 445 mm² 2304 12nm
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 TU106-400 445 mm² 2304 12nm
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER TU106-410 445 mm² 2176 12nm
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 TU106-200A 445 mm² 1920 12nm


Name Chip Die Size SP Node
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti TU116-400-A1 284 mm² 1536 12nm
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 TU116-300-A1 284 mm² 1408 12nm


Name Chip Die Size SP Node
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti TU117-400-A1 200 mm² 1024 12nm
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 TU117-300-A1 200 mm² 896 12nm

No EOL, just binning.

Both 2070 and 2080 are absolutely EOL, and you will be unable to buy these cards new very shortly. They have no reason to exist at those price points with the 2060S and 2070S existing.

Only the 2060 and 2080ti aren’t EOL from the original 20-series. The 2060 to hit the $349 price point, and the 2080ti because AMD can’t compete at that level so there’s no need to offer better value to consumers.

EOL’ing the top SKU TU106 2070 makes absolutely no sense while keeping around the 2060S and 2060. Unless nvidia had a stroke.

EOL’ing the 2080 is more plausible, but I guarantee you nvidia is then agressively down binning large chips towards 2070 Super. (And I know how scary the yield numbers on TU104 up are.)

Either way I’ve got 0 confirmation of the sort from my friends in Taiwan.

So I guess my options are down to this: I could buy an RTX 2080 while they’re still available. Or I could cough up for an RTX 2070 SUPER or an RTX 2080 SUPER. I just don’t think I will actually go for the RTX 2080 SUPER though since I’ve noticed plenty of people say it’s a mild performance increase, but a lot tend to deem it poor value.

I wouldn’t buy a 2080 unless you get a very good deal (ie, $499). The 2070S is basically the same thing and much cheaper.

But really, a 2060S will do great at 1440p. It sounds like a low-end card but it’s as fast as a GTX1080. The 2070S is like a 1080ti, but do you need a 1080ti for 1440p? Nah, not really.