New 3rd Gen Threadripper TRX40 motherboard talk & VRM list

Yeah it gets better temps, but the Gigabyte temps are still excellent, so the point is moot. :slight_smile: Any VRM temps under 70C are perfect, and 5-10C doesn’t make a difference at those temps. VRMs are too analyzed these days, especially on this platform. No one other than liquid nitrogen guys will ever come close to tapping out VRMs.

Yeah basically temps up till 90C is basically fine on decent powerstages.
You don’t really want them to really get over a 110C for longer periods of time.
Although with decent powerstages like IR / Infineon it would be fine for shorter periods of time.

But everything below 90C is fine really.

This makes a bit of sense actually.

So think about it this way. You have so many vrm packed together in the 16 and you’ve load balanced them. Well thats 16 with a smaller surface area contact to the heat spreader and you cant dissipate as much eat with less surface area. I suspect that 8 phases asrock put on the creator not only are beefy but also have more surface contact so to dissipate more heat. What the video isnt showing is what occurs after heat soak which would take a while im curious to see if there’s a difference then

Also 5C is negligible. VRMs get more efficient as they get warmer turns out. However the problem id if you get much past 115C you could get thermal runaway lol

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And of course actively cooled like i said.
I still need to check out the data sheet for those ISL99390 stages.
If you can remember those previous 70A sps stages from interstil,
those were really awesome.

I havent managed to find the 99390

I could only find

https://www.renesas.com/www/doc/datasheet/isl99227-27b.pdf

Yooo Wendell should allow PDF upload up to 35 mb :wink:

I just saw some Canadian pricing on these things last night, and holy bloody RAPE Batman!!! $675CDN for a motherboard and you don’t even get 10GbE. You need to spend over $1100CDN for that, ROFL! So the entry level prices in Canada would be $1900 for the 24 core CPU, and $675 for a cut-down mid-tier motherboard. PCIE4 prices or not, performance be damned, that’s insane.

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Idk the situation on CAD prices.
But the cheapest boards i have seen that offer 10Gbe,
are the Asrock TRX40 Creator and the Msi TRX40-Pro 10G.

But of course you can also just buy a Gigabyte TRX40 aorus pro,
And just buy a dedicated 10G nic pci-e card right?

Oh I know, but it’s the point of it. 10GbE isn’t that expensive, so having a near $700 board with only 5GbE seems rather ‘gougy’, if you get my meaning. They could have included a 10Gb NIC cheaper than that. Heck, they did it on the previous gen TR boards. I suspect that the excuse “PCIE4 is expensive” won’t hold water for much longer, and should NOT be an excuse for lack of 10G.

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Just wanted to point out that the master is actively cooled as well

Just a finned heatsink i believe?

Its fan is tucked away under the I/O panel

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Ah yeah you are right a very small fan underneath the io cover.
But when i look at its location, i don’t really think that it would,
help a significant amount in terms of cooling the actual vcore part of the vrm.
Of course it will help some.
But i think it will mainly cool down the io section, soc vrm and the left part of the memory vrm more rather.

Asrock has an actual fan on the vcore vrm heat sink itself.
But of course some further deeper testing would shine a bit more light on it.
Something like putting a couple of temp probs at it.
Manually pushing the a 3970X, and hammering prime95 for an extended period of time.

Hardware Unboxed did a test and the results do not look the same as the previously posted one. However looked like there mightve been an issue with the Master Bios because the thermals were much higher than the Xtreme and I believe they have similar VRM setup.

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Well yeah based on Steves tests in the video.

all the tested boards there perform pretty well.
What actually is going wrong with the Aorus Master is hard to say.
But it’s likely a bios issue or what not.
that will just need some more investigation.
I also don´t know if his actual boards are retail or ES samples.
Because that could differ a bit.
But like i said above, i think that the actual fan on Master,
and Extreme will have very little impact.

Still from what i gather with this particular test,
and i´m pretty much only interested in the no direct airflow testings,
is that those particular tested boards perform pretty well really.
I mean those tested boards all stayed well below 70°C,
which is pretty cool. :slight_smile:

Of course when you start overclocking those cpu´s a bit more.
And you would do a real torture test like prime95 for an hour.
Then we might see some different numbers.

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I build a system for work(Asus TRX40-Pro, 3970X, 128GB RAM) and have to run Ubuntu(19.10) on it. Do anyone know how I can monitor temps on this setup?

I can’t get lm-sensors to give me anything. Anyone have experience with this?

I have an asus x399-e and to get temperatures working right I used the following kernel module. https://github.com/electrified/asus-wmi-sensors. The developer is pretty responsive, you will have to get the degbugging and sensor data from Hardware Info (https://www.hwinfo.com/). Its windows only so I used a samsung T5 used rufus and created a windows live bootable drive booted into that grabbed the data and provided it to the dev.

I have since upgraded to the Aorus TRX40 master and a 3960x and I wont lie I miss the data asus-wmi-sensors provided. the it87 sensor just dont have the same stuff.

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Also for those who are interested.

I updated the list with the new Asus ROG Zenith II Extreme Alpha vrm details.
The vrm’s control scheme is basically the same as the non Alpha board.
They just upgraded the power stages to Infineon TDA21490 90A.

I bought it! Very good stats gives.

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“it” as in ?