Microsoft Looking to Buy GitHub?

So yes.

This is basic reading people come on.

No it didn’t the audio was shit, MS just enhanced the shit.

You think everything is shit have discerning taste.

I used it pre-microsoft. It was actually pretty decent. Yes, the supernodes improved the audio, but p2p audio is extremely hard, so I would say they’ve done a wonderful job at making it as good as possible.

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Standards are good to have.

So did I and as a text chat client it was great. Though when I used it for voice chat it was 13 hour calls with friends from college as we helped each other on summer break doing papers and playing Counter Strike. Pre MS it was a better experience. The calls didn’t randomly drop and we could at least hear the other person. Now if we try to use it its as a joke. Calls last about 15 minutes and the audio quality is even WORSE than it was like 4-5 years ago. Its ridiculous.

There should be a host for the audio, not just constant throwing of packets in hopes that the connection stays on like it does now. Before, whoever hosted the call on a better data connection (IE my friend in chicago has 15mbps down and 2 or 3 up, whereas I’ve always had 75 down 15 up. If he hosted it was like 90’s quake audio chat over dial up, if I hosted it was like we were on a modern phone call at least) had the responsibility of hosting the call from then on. It was consistent. Now if we try its a game of ‘see how long it takes for skype to crash’.

When discord came out I was trying to get all my friends to use teamspeak. It was my standard, still is tbh, for chats and voice calls. But we tried discord, fiddled with it for a week, and literally the quality from a good day on skype to a bad day on discord was like 800X better. No drops or anything.

So yeah, skypes a meme. Theres more work to keep it running than to use literally anything else.

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The mass exodus has started.

That’s because all data goes through MS servers. Try sending a 50MB file to your friend over skype it will move at 30KB/s. With Tox chat it will max out your upload speed.

Yeah, the “import from GitHub” crashed lmao. Too funny.

Reminded me of the tbag gif in the L1T store :rofl:

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Probably should rename thread Microsoft bought GitHub

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The exodus started saturday night… the majority of people I spoke to, their reaction was " what if they change the TOS’…

My reaction is, change it to what? I’m not sure these people even know what they are currently agreeing to. What exactly do they expect to happen.

It’s hardly a pass exodus either. I think if they wanted to move they should never have been on GitHub in the first place. People saying gitlab is open source and it’s better are the worst at this considering they’ve been happily using GitHub all this time.

No harm in being proactive I say. My active project was already on gitlab and It works well plus they have an acceptable tos. Went ahead and removed my repos from github.

I saw bitbucket mentioned here but they claim rights to use and create derivative works of what you post. :-1:

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This is out of context. Using the service you grant them that right only to the extent necessary to provide the service. This is the same with all services.

Do you have a link to gitlabs TOS that state what license you give gitlab? I’ve been unable to find then stating what they are granted. It looks like they have missed it out which if they have leaves them liable to things like billing them for storing your code.

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Yes, but I’m not ok with them having the RIGHT to use my work to improve theirs.

Not that I have found.

That’s not what it says. Using your work to improve theirs would not fall under the provisions of the limited license to provide service. The need to modify likely comes under the need to be able to compress or alter the data format when pushing it to their services for you. For example creating a PDF of your markdown document is a derivative work, their CI may create modified code etc.

And yet no stated terms from gitlab you find acceptable?

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Even just using a syntax highlighter could be considered a derivative work. It doesn’t alter the code, but it parses the, uses it and transforms it for better reading, hence it is derivative. It is a basic functionality of those services. Of course they also provide the raw data, but not a lot of people want that.

I don’t see how some people don’t understand what the TOS say, if they have even read them.

Also…

Yeah, so what? They have to tell you before they do and you actually get the chance to read them before you agree, which noone does, and then complains about it. If it’s really going to be that big a change then people can still leave them, until they are changed and agreed nothing changes with the service or their right to use your code in whatever way. Just because they were bought out changes nothing in your contractual agreement.

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What it doesn’t say is just as harmful. Using blanket statements to grant any usage of your work for their benefit is dangerous.

But you said you were fine with gitlab not staying their terms…?

Bitbuckets statements weren’t blanket statements.

That’s right. I can at least defend myself against usage not compliant with my license.

Show me exactly where its stated they will not or can not use my code in their software.

Go read it. im not doing the work for you because you fail to understand basic terms of service (or the consiquences of the lack of one)

Hahaha, it doesn’t exist that’s why.