Linux Sucks 2024 - Bryan Lunduke

He eventually started releasing the presentations outside the paywall again.

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Lunduke has sadly fallen into the right wing trap of everything bad in the world is all because of the ā€œWoke Mafiaā„¢ā€.

Most people using the word Woke as a derogatory term believe everything to the left of them is Woke, at least according to my own anecdotal evidence.
Though, I do believe The Ark said it best…

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He’s made me very nervous about using firefox because of whole advertising conflict of interesting issue. I’m waiting for more people to cover the issue before making my final judgement.

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Yeah, he still brings up good points from time to time, I just wish he would stop being a bitter old fart at this point. He could do so much better. The man feels even more bitter than German draft beer these days, and that is just not very cool…

That said, I do agree for instance on his take that 2.5% of the Linux Foundation money goes to Linux (kernel) development, the rest is other stuff. That is a good question - why so low? Should it be that low? Can we gain anything by increasing spending to 3% or 5%? Should Linux Foundation hire a gang of monkeys to rewrite the kernel completely in Rust? These are all valid questions that should be answered by someone on the board.

And yes, we need someone around to ask those questions. Linux is corporate today. That does not mean FOSS and neckbeards are gone - they just shifted focus to the edges,more concerned with apps and smart home tinkering now, than actual core problems.

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Devils advocate:

Linux kernel is Linux kernel. Without it the world stops spinning. That means companies will fund the maintenance of it no problem. So, should we spend foundation money on something corporations can otherwise foot the bill for? Depends on where the other 97.5% goes, I’d say. If it’s useless waste, I’d say we could spend it better on kernel issues.

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Theres a bit of that, but i would also posit that his assessment of linux funding not being used for … you know… linux development (instead funnelled into other non-core pursuits) is a big problem.

Ditto for the linux foundation being chaired by GPL violators.

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Based. Unfortunately the foundation seems to have given it’s balls to Microsoft, so there’s no backbone in the org anymore.

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I can’t believe someone who posts again after 2 years, posts this thing.

Good. His paywall was ridiculous. Even the Linux Sucks under the ā€œfree tier, just make an account on this websiteā€ was worse than stupid. I never subbed to it and therefore never watched his content.

I’m guessing he wants to compare numbers, to see how many people singed up for locals last year to watch this and how many will watch it on youtube. He’ll probably have a big shock to see that keeping things under a paywall, even on a ā€œfree tier paywallā€ is going to be a huge block on outreach. He changes his mind from time to time and switches between open and paywalled content. Maybe that’s his strategy of ā€œgrabbing more subsā€ and then slapping his new followers with a paywall, to get more of them to try to donate money to him?

What I don’t like about ā€œcreatorsā€ like him, is the secrecy. If you want to be

… you at least want your voice to be heard by as many people as possible. He then proceeds to hide his content. You know, if he’s making money and he’s satisfied with the small number of subscribers he has there (wasn’t he the largest guy on locals?) then good for him. For me, I won’t subscribe to someone like him.

I will watch linux sucks, unless I find the points to be too dumb and close the video off. I’ll only watch this to see if there’s any things we can agree and the things we disagree on (I always keep an open mind and listen to opposing ideas).

But to me, being open and sharing knowledge is what I look the most forward to. That’s why every tutorial I write is readable on this forum and not paywalled. I could write for a living, but I’m not interested in that, but in spreading knowledge and making everyone’s life better (in turn, people having higher standards of living also means that my own standards of living will go up).

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Ok, thoughts on the talk:

  • RedHat doing discriminatory training would have europoors up in arms if it was any race except their own. Curious.

  • SUSE seems like it’s gonna die.

  • I like the SUSE mascot as well, they used to be a cool org, too bad to hear they got rid of it.

  • SUSE calling people ā€œrotten flesh that needs to be cut outā€ sounds awfully similar to a certain 1930s ideology. That’s all I’m gonna say there.

  • I’m so glad that the AI ā€œrevolutionā€ is almost over. The finance wizards seem to have deemed AI a failed investment over the last couple weeks, so we’re seeing a correction back to Lockheed and Raytheon, which means that maybe we can stop pretending that wasting megawatt-hours of electricity teaching a computer how to classify a dog is a waste of time.

  • Imagine a world where normies have 8 cores. A world where you can compile programs at blazing speed. A world where Gentoo no longer requires you to compile binaries. Yep, we’re living in clown world. :honkler: :earth_americas:

  • The GNOME Shaman seems like the logical conclusion of :honkler: :earth_americas: At least it’s good for a laugh LMAO

  • Ubuntu going the way of Fedora Silverblue honestly sounds like a really good decision. If only they’d jump on the flatpak bandwagon, because we all know Snap sucks. Honestly, this change deserves it’s own thread to discuss, I’ll probably start something about this on the weekend… It sounds like all the benefits of an immutable desktop, with none of the drawbacks of Fedora/RedHat.

  • After looking at the Linux Foundation’s funding breakdown, I regret my above post. It’s all fucking waste. Blockchain? AI? FUCKING VACCINE PASSPORTS? DIE ā€œbadgingā€? These neo-feudalists need to stop before we all wind up slaves again.

  • 70% of the companies are GPL violators. So… Basically this just reinforces the concept of ā€œlaws do not apply if you have enough moneyā€

  • Okay, what the actual fuck does Mozilla do that’s worth $600M? posted from Firefox

  • Fedora on life support seems like it’s the end…

  • I’m shocked how hard europoors are pushing to silence a Jewish person who’s talking about discrimination. That really isn’t giving off the impression they think it is.


I’m excited to see people flag this thread because he’s some sort of wrongthinker. That’ll really activate my almonds.

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I finished watching that too. A bit disappointing that it’s the one from last year, but I guess that’s to be expected. The only way I realized that was because of the intro on beating a dead horse (which I initially thought it was a repeat from ā€œlast yearā€) and because it mentioned gentoo became a binary distro (which I remembered I saw in the last year promo).

He makes really good points, but I really don’t like the bragging that he’s the only one talking about that news and trying to claim he’s the only source of truth on the matter. I’ve heard most of these stories, except for the linux foundation breakdown / analysis and the SUSE going mad.

Because I thought it was this year’s version, I was waiting for him to point out the SUSE corporation kicking the bucket from under OpenSUSE and asking them to rebrand. To be fair, they had some good reasons for doing so, but SUSE is definitely unaliving itself.

I’ve gotta say, AI co-processors on things like security cameras is great. General purpose AI, not so much, but having a camera module that’s accelerated by an AI co-processor is great. Check out Jeff Geerling’s image recognition videos on the rpi.

Imagine having an AI recording all the footage and automatically detecting not just motion, but things like people, animals, cars and so on. Instead of keeping all the footage of motion, just keep the parts that involve things that are detected, or detected as ā€œunknown.ā€ A problem I have with my own hikvision setup is that motion from moving branches / leaves are using quite some space, in comparison to the human and animal traffic (not to be confused with trafficking).

I also have a dog that sometimes triggers the motion detection, which adds to the stored footage. Then there’s rain and sometimes small flies or mosquitos flying around the infrared light and the warmth emitted by the cameras.

AI is good at also filling a database with timestamps and what it detected, so you can search for actual ā€œeventsā€ rather just blindly scroll through moving branches. I could filter out branches moving or dog and only store activity of humans.

On the ā€œbig AI,ā€ yeah, that’s BS. Even facebook saw the writing on the wall, with llama2 and locally trained models.

That was hilarious and one of the things I wasn’t aware. It sounds to me like the GNOME foundation is also committing unaliving. And the way they dealt with it (by just shutting down people) is insane. Then Lunduke says at the end that the Linux Foundation could be sponsoring GNOME and KDE 10-fold (I think they shouldn’t, but I get he was just giving an example).

I think neither are that great compared to NixOS. But nixos is so much more than just an immutable distro, it’s also reproducible.

Yeah, that thing is very depressing. I knew Microsoft was among the biggest donors for the Linux Foundation, which was already a red flag for the foundation. But I’m surprised in what horrible ways they waste funds and even reducing funding for linux. The board members are literally following their own agendas and don’t contribute to open source. They just give money to the foundation, but then spend the money however they want, but under a non-profit. A great way to get more out of your $ (because it wouldn’t be as taxed if it’s ā€œdonatedā€ and then spent on whatever you wanted anyway). What a joke.

Since the RHEL scandal with the source going de facto closed source, I stopped respecting any corporate backed project, even open source. Corporations don’t do things right, they compensate for lack of talent with man-power and procedures. And I’m glad I got to experience that. The real hacking and innovation is happening in the most remote spaces. Things like nixos and skarnet are niches. Alpine was a niche, until it started being used for docker. Chimera Linux is a niche that’s doing some great work.

Slavery never ended. It just changed form and the people got brainwashed / indoctrinated into thinking they’re free. Look into the works of Frederick Douglass, an actual former slave.


Overall, I really think these should’ve been brought out to light when they happened and not be hidden behind a paywall. I still can’t say I trust Lunduke. He said a lot of true things and I’m glad he kept it mostly about the linux world. But his intentions as a person are questionable. I’m against early content for supporters too, but at least I can get behind that, compared to keeping everything under a paywall. It’s literally the model of academic journals. How are you supposed to have science advance, if you hide the information from the people? In the same vein, how does Lunduke expect change if he keeps his own content private?

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Oh and gentoo becoming a binary distro isn’t a bad thing. You still have the option to tune your packages and have emerge compile them however you want, but you can also get the pre-compiled versions provided by the distro. It’s kinda similar to the nixos cache in that sense, although emerge has a lot more knobs AFAIK, to optimize even further.

Probably shouldn’t comment on this because I know how it’s going to go, and most of it is just too niche for me really be interested. I will make one observation though.

Drama will always disinterest people who just want to use DE’s/WM’s/Distros, etc. I won’t be using openSUSE stuff again, because drama is boring. People can die on whatever hills they want to about whichever issues of the day they want, but in the end most people are either not going to read diatribes from Disto providers, or they’ll just say oh. Okay. This company doesn’t want me using their stuff. Cool, byeee. And then the distro withers and dies because they’ve alienated half the existing and potential userbase, over American politics [primarily].

It’s boring. People are bored of this stuff now. Most people just need to get work done.

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bitter old people generally don’t expect change and only want to shout at clouds and be admired by the people who choose to listen. it’s a wonderful self-fulfilling prophecy in some ways.

I hope he doesn’t have to live off his subs though, imo living off being a ā€œcontent creatorā€ is generally a way to encourage people to make stupid moves and become unmoored from reality. Better to combine it with an actual useful job or something that keeps you in contact with regular society and incentives. (Yeah wage slavery ain’t great but it’s mostly the petty boug types who go off the rails, because they have some freedom but can never really compete with large corporations whose relative tax burdens are so much lower it ain’t funny and who can afford the regulatory overhead that they generally actively lobby for because it creates a moat against startups.)

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Don’t you dare say his name on GNOME forums unless you want a ban. :woozy_face:

If i had more of a drive to run it and figure out it’s quirks, I’d be using Gentoo as my main distro already. Between the RHEL and SUSE drama, it’s given me pause at the least.

I went and touched grass.

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Thanks for posting. I didn’t knew him before, he makes some good points. But googling him brings up questionable stuff.

This! Iā€˜ve a life, kids, family, friends…
Iā€˜m in my mid thirties I just want things to work.
If you bundle your software with a flamewar I’ll drop it, since it’s really likely it won’t be around for long.

That is so depressing, but it would also be my guess that this was this was the reason why they put their money in the foundation.

I think we’ll have to wait for the next hype train to start boarding before (my) management is going to come to the same conclusion. My guess is that ā€œA.I.ā€ in every product will stick around at least till end 2025.

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Keep the US government from suing Google for monopoly. Now that it has backfired expect the Mozilla foundation to writhe.

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Advertise to people that they should donate to fund Thunderbird development because they need to be self sustaining!

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I find it important to have always more than one solution to things, even when Snap isn’t great, it can still become better.

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This is just sunk cost fallacy. I don’t mind snap, it does some bonehead stuff, but whatever so does most everything, but the community clearly chose flatpak and snap has a horrible stigma around it. Further time and money in it seems better spent making flatpak better at this point and cutting your losses.

Like even from a corporate / enterprise level, snap just was a no go when we looked at it, not being able to stop auto updates is incredibly stupid and we couldn’t afford to have stuff being updated outside all our regular testing and deployment channels.