So my thoughts, is it time for a FF alternative? I know that is Mozilla goes down, it will drag the derivatives with it. But what else is there to do? Webkit with Epiphany is taking so long and well de-googled Chromium.
Also what happen to Firefox OS. I was thinking as ChromeOS (probably Andromeda too) is getting merged to Android, there would be room now for a Tiny OS.
And as the salaries have been rising on the C suite, I really think they also don’t believe it will ever survive.
I’m checking out Waterfox, Pale Moon, Mull and Librewolf. Although I don’t like Libre as it doesn’t allow much settings changes. I do like uBlock but I prefer Adnauseam and with DDG, I’m through, only using Qwant or others.
What do you think?
Most Windows machines had Firefox installed. I don’t understand in what kind of hole or stagnation FF fell to as Chrome just walked passed and got miles ahead.
I think that Chrome’s rise came from netbooks and other ChromeOS machines, as those used to be very popular until thin and lights took over and people that did use those machines only knew Chrome. Google also has the money to pay System Integrators to pre-install Chrome on pre-builts and laptops. Plus, there’s “Google” as a name, so that also led to Chrome becoming so popular.
Chrome became big before ChromeOS because of the marketing on G search homepage. And everyone recommending it to eachother.
I was one of the semi-early adopters.
Until they remived the feature to close all windows at once and reopening them all at once. And FF Quantum launched that time also so since then I’ve been FF user.
Web engine? Outside of safari and chromium, nope. Just as Netscape was slain, I hope a new organization or community will step up and continue FF development
Do you want to stick it to Mozilla for adding sponsored pages?
Librewolf is your answer. Just make sure to change the cookie/history settings if you want to stay logged in.
I try not to be too cynical, but over the years, I have been continually disappointed in the direction mozilla has gone.
The foundation has made some very questionable decisions around picking leaders and choosing to increase compensation while user counts decline.
They lost their way the moment they stopped focusing on the web engine. Quantum was a needed update, but the browser team didn’t continue their momentum to improve performance further. Multi account container tabs are cool, but everything else from supporting deplatforming, to spending donations on anything but the browser development see the quoted reddit post, to the ugly proton tabs redesign with no option to revert it outside of userchrome hacks, and removal of addons
reddit repy
Unfortunately, donations to Mozilla Foundation are not used for Firefox development: https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/faq#item_8 While Firefox does produce revenue — chiefly through search partnerships — this earned income is largely reinvested back into the Corporation. The Mozilla Foundation’s education and advocacy efforts, which span several continents and reach millions of people, are supported by philanthropic donations.
Looks like they will start working on performance, but I’ll believe it when I see it
I don’t like Librewolf because some settings are locked. And adding Qwant isn’t possible.
Also which saddens me is the removal of PWA from FF. I use it at work, I used to use it for this and other forums.
Easy containarized page that I don’t need to save as a tab in my browser. Also a good way to keep open one thing and closing the browser, or just not opening the browser.
I have 1019 tabs in Firefox, I either leave it open or have it closed. In XFCE I can’t open an incognito browser by right clicking so sometimes it stays closed and I have to use Edge (I only have it because of work).
I still use firefox as my main browser till this day.
Because to me it´s still the nicest browser to use.
And about all the fuzz around it i don´t really care too much.
Because chrome based browsers aren´t really any better imo.
What takes a very active public build working at removing telemetry and increasing security for chromium, firefox can still do with a set of custom flags (and more actually)
to me it serves this purpose. Wasn’t there a new rendering engine you could switch to that splits tab GPU rendering like chromium does? I think it was called electrolysis
I think another big reason people left firefox is Google on Android pulled a nasty move making it so only chromium browsers can utilize android’s tab sandboxing security.
This not only reduced performance for non chromium browsers but makes them a security threat to use on Android.
On mobile I use Samsung browser and keyboard, because in incognito, it does not save the words to the dictionary on the keyboard. It also removes word suggestion. Incognito also blocks taking screenshots.
I would be using other solutions if they also had this feature.
Yes, I used to use the extension on Windows, when I used to use that, two years ago. And the solutions for Linux were way too much of a hassle to setup on Arch.
Mozilla sucks but it is all we have unless you are fine using webkit. I think the answer is to use Librewolf so that all of the dumb antifeatures are delt with upstream.
Epiphany with Webkit is getting better by the month. I use it for PWAs.
Webkit is overall not shit, but just sooooooooo outdated. Apple even made an ad campaign in Spain for Safari last month. I really hope that Webkit could become a viable option for daily browsing against Chrome.
Technically, people who have switched platform once before are more likely to switch again. Because they are already more comfortable in learning something new and don’t have prejudice on other platforms.
I’m checking out Waterfox. I don’t know what Floorp is and why it is not FOSS…
