As for motherboards, you will probably have a hard time finding a decent one at a low price. You will be limited to 300 and 400 series. High end X370 and mid to high end B450 and X470 is what I would look at.
I skipped the 400 series board, so I can’t say what was good or not. For X370, Asrock X370 Taichi, Gigabyte X370 Gaming K7, Asus Strix X370-F Gaming. Avoid MSI, their 300 series boards really sucked.
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RAM gets funny, and it gets /more/ funny the earlier in the AM4 stack you go.
I’ve actually come to somewhat prefer 3200mt/s kits across the board though, as I can run greatly reduced SoC voltage on Zen 2/3 and usually get them working on Zen+. Original Zen likes to get really picky in ways I don’t fully understand, but it’s not uncommon for them to throw in the towel quite a bit lower, like 2666.
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There really comes a point of diminishing returns. I played with memory bandwidth on my 5700g, considering it had onboard video, I wanted to push it as far as I reasonably could.
The real world difference I measured from 3200MT/s vs 3600MT/s was on the order of 6% bandwidth, and the first word latency was about 1ns (from 12ns to 11 IIRC) difference. That’s despite the frequency difference being 12%.
Hell, in some situations, I had increased the frequency past 3600MT/s and I couldn’t keep the memory bandwidth on par with 3600. (on settings it would post for)
Those benefits really only matter for cool factor and when you’re absolutely slamming the machine. Both perfectly valid reasons, but the fact of the matter is that memory isn’t terribly important in the grand scheme of things.
I only mentioned memory quality because first gen Ryzen had a hard time posting with crappy memory at JEDEC.
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I just try what I can with memory bandwidth and the three main timings…after that most of my gains can be made on the ram refresh and the Northbridge. This is were I got some pretty good gains from with my Amd 8350.
On the 1800x it should get interesting in learning more about them. I learned so much over 10 years overclocking with bull/pile amd so much so that I cannot learn anymore. Looking forward to cramming more useless information into my head on this cpu lol
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AM4 is the last generation where OC:ing even made sense, and even then only up to Zen 1+. Undervolting is still a thing, but these days CPUs come with built in overclockers that push your CPU to 98% of where it can go out of the box. AMD forced the issue trying to outcompete Intel and Intel responded in kind.
OC has been dead for at least five years by now and your experiences with AM3 and AM3+ will not carry over well to AM4. Don’t take my word for it, look at something like Jays2Cents on Youtube.
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Watched Jays before and many other channels. Overclocking has been a fun past time for me and even if it is a slight overclock on much newer ones I will still do it.
I just enjoy doing it and ever since I overclocked my first pen 200 MHz system with a crazy amount of 256 megs of ram I was just hooked.
Cleaning out operating systems as well with programs like Ntlite also gives me great joy. I want to get the best potential out of a system even if it isn’t the newest or the greatest.
I have one of thy fastest (everyday running) amd 8350 systems out there in the world. Its outdated,older and no longer wanted however but its been a passion for me and hope to see what I can do safely with this 1800x
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Mostly. Really wasn’t until 5000-series where I started leaving PBO on instead of going for a manual locked-clock OC, and for dedicated high load operation I’d still lean towards a manual OC over PBO as it’s pretty certain you can run more multiplier at the same voltage, or considerably less voltage for the same multiplier.
I’d also still class PBO+CO+tweaking as “overclocking”, and it’s still worth a cool 10% all-core over leaving well enough alone.
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You could still get some gains from tradicional overclocking on Zen 2. Zen 3 “perfected” PB and PBO, which rendered overclocking nearly useless. You could still see some small gains from tweaking other subsystems like memory, but that was usually more of a hassle for little obvious gains. Zen 1 you could still overclock, but the higher end chips were pretty much already at their max (but it was still fun to do).
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Certainly… gotta enjoy life and if it’s something you like to do then do it
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