Haswell- E details

Hey guys,

So Tweaktown have posted this:

This annoys me 'cause I planned on picking up the middle of the road ~$600 CPU, going with the assumption the $600 and $1000 CPU's would be 8 core and the $300 would be a six, however it appears that intel have actually decided to provide incentive to get the extreme processor for once by making it the only 8 core sku.

What do you guys think?

Riots in the streets!

To be honest, this isn't terrible surprising. The extreme edition CPUs have always beena  little... pointless... unless you needed the absolutely highest-binned chip. Or bragging rights. In this setup though the 5930k is the redundant one. So I would expect it to cost somewhere around $6-700, while the 5820k would sell for over $400. They won't want to price it too close to the i7 4770k.

Perhaps the most interesting thing about this lineup is that there will two Haswell-E CPUs that might be worth buying (5820k and 5960x), compared to the single one of the previous generations.

If the non-enthusiast haswell is anything to go by they probably wont be very good overclockers, the ram will also probably be very expensive, maybe a 50-100% premium combined with minimal improvements offset by decreased overclocking margin, which alltogether makes it particularly unatractive.

If you really need it, I would be looking at a firesale on the current generation of enthusiast parts (unless you want to pay much more), perhaps broadwell-E will be different, perhaps it will have improved OC margins (aparently broadwell has voltage regulator on the motherboard again, might use better TIM too), come with non-extreme 8 core variants, and have a reasonable IPC improvement.

Damnit intel. They're playing games again like they did with the extreme 1366 CPUs that were 6 core (but those came out after the fact). 

Guess I wont be upgrading till I can get a Xeon. Blerg. 

The chip I want is $2112. lol. but here we are 18 months later and the price is halving? I guess. 

Seems crazy. 

http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t&FamilyText=Intel%C2%AE%20Xeon%C2%AE%20Processor%20E5%20v2%20Family&CoreCountMin=8&CoreCountMax=8

 

 

I want the platform as my X58 build was ungodly expensive at the time, but still kicks today, I use it is a general workstation still, with a six core Xeon. So I figure going with X99 I should get the same life span out of it. Although I might go with the cheapest CPU and wait for a $600 eight core to come around.

I really like the fact that the 5820K is a 6 core instead of a 4 core, this finally makes the x820K cpus a bit more viable. Don't really care for the PCI-E layout of it but most of the 2011-13 boards will have PLX chips anyways so no big deal. I am impressed by this lineup

Yeah the 3820k and 4820k were pretty much useless.

Let's hope that they don't raise the price on the 5820k because of the extra cores and make it completely worthless again.

I was hoping for the 8 core being available in the K version of the cpu, however this makes the 5820K a much more interesting cpu if they keep the same pricing scheme.

Should also be able to pick up 4930Ks for pretty cheap, as the Haswell-e launch approaches.

Has anyone seen in of the projected prices for DDR4 yet?

For DDR4 prices, I've heard it will be somewhere around $90 per 8GB stick

Holy balls...

To be honest I feel like that's not (too) bad. I mean right now the DDR3 8GB sticks are in the $60-80 range.

Unless that was a comment and how little more it was. But I don't feel like that was your intent.

I do suppose you are right that it isn't that much more money.

But really, I don't see the point of DDR4 at least not now and not for gaming or even most productivity. I do suppose though that this is a serious and enthusiast grade platform so there may be a benefit of having the extra speed and lower power consumption, even though the default speed is just 2100Mhz and the power usage isn't that much lower, for people who do serious productivity or just want to have the latest in a long lasting platform.

Hope ASUS release a Rampage V Gene mATX motherboard for these CPUs.

Yeah thats how it allways goes with intel.

That xeon E5-2687WV2 is a hell of a nice chip by the way. 8core 16 threads, 4ghz turbo core, 25 megs cache. likey like. Or the Xeon E5-2680V2. 10 core Xeon littlebit lower clocked but its cheaper then the 8 core.

http://ark.intel.com/nl/products/75277/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2680-v2-25M-Cache-2_80-GHz

And has a lower tdp.

I dunno man the lowest end E series processor is usually not that much more than the i7 from the normal one. Heck if its less than $400 I'm totally ditching my i5 2500k.  

That "lowest end" part has 2 more cores than the 4770K

Really sad that only the $1000 chip is the 8 core one. Maybe skylake E have an 8 core for ~$500. I am however THRILLED about the lowest end one being a 6 core thats unlocked. Being on the old 2500k(4.5ghz but still) is still enough but since I graduate next spring I figure with all the haswell E being unlocked and at least 6 core this finally puts a viable upgrade path in my sights, that will hold me over at least until 8 cores are much more affordable and lets me use ddr4 and not just pcie 3.0(2500k only supports 2.0) but a lot of pcie 3.9 lanes.  Heck maybe this even means theres a chance of skylake i7 having 6 cores. 

the x820 are usually lower end/cost for people who need some features on the E motherboards but cant afford or don't need the high end cpus. I really hope the cost stays around $350 for the x820 it will be perfect for me then.

Any word on prices of 4GB sticks, I really don't need more than 16GB but quad channel memory and all. 

I'm pretty sure that a 4GB stick will be around the $60-$70+ range initially