Sorry for the delay! As I haven’t really had a PC to use since June last year and it was hard to remember what I was using. I was converting a lot of video and audio using Handbrake and dBpoweramp (sometimes Audacity,CUETools and Mp3tag). Nothing overly professional, more for just archiving. I have had friends ask me to edit video in the near future so I guess an Adobe Premiere Pro sub is incoming.
I will also be going back to recording a DnD game I play with friends using OBS. The programs we use to run the game are Maptools and Discord. This isn’t really intensive though.
I also dabble with Oracle VM software, trying to learn more about Linux and it’s different distributions.
On top of this I run Foobar2000, Discord and Twitch constantly, along with Firefox with a plethora of tabs. Usually a RDC or two open too to monitor other things on my network.
I’d be using the Crossover 3412UM (3440x1440 @ 95 Hz) and 2 x LG 24" 1920x1080 @ 60 Hz IPS monitors.
I hope this helps. You are helping me a lot and I thank you for that. I guess it’s just hard for me letting go of such a large chunk of cash all at once, even if I have the budget for it. The budget by the way is around $3000 AUD, not including the monitor or peripherals.
Again excuse the tardiness, it’s 2am heh.
Edit - Soz forgot to add games. Would be getting into all the new titles being released.
Another thing I have just realised is I have no idea how long it’s going to take to restock the i7 8700k from my preferred retailers whereas I can order and pick up the AMD system immediately.
I’m going to have to head to bed. Cheers mates and I’ll catch up with the thread later today.
Handbrake can take advantage of the additional cores/threads. I upgraded to a 1700 from an i3-4130 and the difference in time saved is huge. DVD SD quality episodes took ~15min each episode with x264 and default settings (1-2 audio tracks + 1-2 subtitle tracks), not it’s down to ~5min. BluRay movies transcoded with x265 take now as long as x264 did before with the i3 (default settings, sometimes up to 5 audio tracks but no subs cause Handbrake burns them in even if the box is unchecked).
~2h for an HD BluRay movie in x265 ain’t too bad, considering I’m not losing any quality but the file size is sometimes less than half of what the x264 transcode was.
The biggest difference is that I can actually use my PC for browsing the web + watching movies in VLC while I’m transcoding with Handbrake, which was impossible with my i3.
You might want to test your 1700 (if you decide to get that one or even a 1700X/1800X) for that SEGV issue. Sometimes hard to trigger from what I’ve read/heard, but if you compile and the CPU/cache is under heavy load it goes bonkers on certain Ryzen 7 chips.
Not to scare you away from Ryzen 7, just an FYI.
You can read more about that issue here:
As for games…no idea. There aren’t too many games that take advantage of more cores. But ever since I upgraded my GPU I haven’t really had the desire/concentration to play games that are demanding, so I can’t really say how well it does. On top of that I wouldn’t even be able to tell you about popular games like PUBG, BF1, Rocket League, etc as I never played them.
You can see the 8700k does indeed outperform the R7 1700 but its also $80 more. Its really a judgement call on if you want to pay extra and also wait for stock, for what will feel essentially the same in the end. I’m lazy and dont like waiting, which is why I have a 7700k because I didnt want to wait for Ryzen. Either option is a solid performer it seems, with the 8700k maybe being worth it if you like the idea of delidding down the road possibly.
Yeah I posted the article of that info. It’s surprisingly close.
He’s not comparing a Haswell i3 to Ryzen tho. 1700x and 8700k are neck and neck via PCPer.
Good info on Ryzen linux though. Ive heard lots of horror stories, whereas with intel, it seems to just work
This is a current problem with the AMD platform right now. Plus there are other bugs out there with software. While I have no doubt that most of these issues will be ironed out with software/UEFI updates (and many users will never even encounter them at this point), Intel’s platform does just work because that’s been the only platform for developers to really focus on and is very mature.
Given that OP wants to use Virtual Box (likely in windows) to virtualize Linux I dont think there will be as much of a difference between the two platforms.
Agreed. I don’t think these bugs should scare anyone away from the AMD platform, but I also think it’s important that people are aware that it is new and software developers are still playing catch up.
Yup, I just couldn’t find any info of OP’s old PC’s specs, so I thought I just throw in my own upgrade experience (it is a huge step in my case, tbh).
AM4 is a completely new platform, while Intel kinda only “updated” theirs. It’s not like Intel didn’t have any issues in the past (Pentium FDIV bug, the Intel Atom C-series bricking, poor thermal paste between DIE and IHS causing heat problems, hyper-threading flaw on Skylake/Kaby Lake, etc.)
Plus, mostly pre-week 25 productions seem to have those issues. And if you don’t use Linux and compile, you should be fine.
That’s enough for me to recommend Ryzen. The additional cores are going to help you a ton with virtualization.
You also have to consider that the 8700k is out of stock in most locations and they’re showing up on Ebay for $999 USD. If you’re going to wait more, that’s totally fine, but I’m not sure if you’ll be able to find them since Intel doesn’t have any stock out there yet. The 1700/1700x is available today.
I’m not finding any information on that. Can you send me a link? My understanding is that CS is only optimized for 6/12, not 8/16.
When it comes to CUEtools and mp3tag, well, mp3tag isn’t CPU intensive enough to have an issue, it’s more IO bound. CUEtools is similar, especially if you’re ripping disks. You may notice a few seconds one way or another because of the sata implementation, but that’s just how the cookie crumbles.
As much as OBS isn’t intensive, the additional threads are going to help you if you decide to stream anything that becomes intensive.
More cores is Moar Better™ in this situation. Virtualization is all about cores and instruction translation.
Bottom line is this: You’ll be happy with both, but I’d personally go with AMD.
Truth. If OP goes AMD, they should be looking at 3200MHz kits or as close to that as they can get. Anything over that isn’t stable according to most accounts and then you are just wasting your money. Intel platform doesn’t really care about RAM speed.
