Damn a Ryzen 5 without any graphics card
A friend of mine has more or less that build. He is pretty happy with it.
real world xp. So does he play like gta 5 on there without much problems?
He mostly codes and plays Blizzard games.
Get the 2400g mobo and ram prob get a discount for getting 3 things (Could prob get it for $410 shipped add psu and storage and you could get close to $500 for sure)
I can vouch for the Ryzen 5 2400g being a good buy right now, at least until GPU prices come down. I am shocked at what the little chip can do all things considered.
Specs:
CPU- Ryzen 5 2400g stock cooler and no overclock
Ram- 8gb Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 2400mhz (Faster would be better but I just went with what I had laying around for now)
Motherboard- Gigabyte AB350 itx
SSD- Old intel 120gb something or other
HDD- 1tb Seagate Barracuda
PSU- 500w EVGA
Benchmarks:
Farcry 5 @ 720p getting around 40fps average
Fallout 4 @ 1080p low getting around 45fps average
GTAV @ 1080p medium/low 45-50fps average
DOOM @ 1080p Vulcan and medium/high 60+ fps
Ark @ 1080p runs and looks great but I max out my ram usage to much for it to be enjoyable
Rocket League @ 1080p is well over 60fps
I can’t recall any others I’ve tried recently but if your curious and want to shoot me a list of ones to try I certainly can!
wow that’s not bad for no gpu
It really has surprised me.
I am doing more of my gaming on it then my main machine these days since it is truly fun to see what the little unit can handle!
If I didn’t already have a powerful system and didn’t want to pay the going rates for a GPU I could happily play on this system for quite some time =)
I would go 4k on the monitor, even at 1080 the picture quality diference is amazing.
I just bought a 4k tv and we have DSL, I was blown away at the difference.
Monitors can last through 2 or 3 upgrades
With this sort of a budget, I highly recommend against 4k. At the moment, it’s unlikely OP could push 1080 on most games. Spending extra on the monitor isn’t really an option here. I do understand the benefit of a 4k display though. It is nice, but putting together a full system for $500 is not an easy task to begin with.
That’s the thing. You say “no GPU”, and I understand you mean no discrete GPU, but AMD’s APUs have always been known for being pretty badass when it comes to performance in a small package. I think you’ll be pretty satisfied with the performance if you go with a 2400G. The benefit of using one of those is that if you decide to get a powerful GPU later, you can. That will also allow you to upgrade the CPU to a non-G sku (more cores or whatever).
Additionally, it’s important to note that with an APU like the 2400g, you’ll see larger benefit from high frequency RAM. getting memory that does 3200mhz vs 2400mhz is going to make a significant difference in your gaming performance.
EDIT: Linking to anandtech.
While this is comparing mostly iGPUs, you should take those 1030 scores with a pile of salt. expect a good variance on what you can actually pick up because nvidia rolled out a lower performing card and called it the GT 1030 and kept the same SKU. Shady, but it is what it is. source
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12425/marrying-vega-and-zen-the-amd-ryzen-5-2400g-review/5
Ram @w.meri has is speced for am4 and is 3200 speed op def should get the used discount on his gear. Has like 10hrs on the CPU only.
I asked this a few days ago. I think the motherboard needs to support HDMI 2.0 or display port? to run the desktop using the 2400G at 4k60. As far as I know we don’t have a B350M with HDMI 2.0
Even the $90 ASRock AB 350 M has HDMI 1.4
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12357/asrock-ab350-gaming-k4-motherboard-review-90-usd/2
Is there a reason to believe 2400G cannot into 4k60 desktop (think text editors like visual studio code and web browsers like Firefox). IIRC Wendell used to be enthusiastic about 32" 4k monitors. Maybe it is worth it. With HDR10 being a focus, maybe the older 4k displays can be had for less?
Another 2400G owner here (on my HTPC) and I have been very impressed with the APU running with 3200MHz RAM. You can also stuff this into a really small system (see In Win Chopin case) and still have a little OC headroom. But choose the motherboard carefully in this instance, as I get terrible vdroop under load when I set Vega to 1300MHz and the SoC voltage to 1.2v (Gigabyte GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI).
I do mean to pull the box out and do some more in-depth testing with it, but I’m lazy, and it works right now.
I heard that 1440p is the sweet spot for monitors and after recently getting one, I have to agree.
My Omen is 32" and 75Hz with FreeSync = $250 on sale. The performance hit going from 1080 to 1440 isn’t bad but the quality is much better. I was using a 32" TV as a brief experiment because my 75Hz 24" monitor was getting too small for my old eyes to read. That TV actually damaged my eyesight to the point where I went to the optometrist. Once I got a proper monitor again, my vision problems disappeared. 75Hz is way better than 60 Hz. Better than pure numbers would lead you to expect.
Even at 32" the QHD picture quality is amazing! It’s hard to see pixels in a static Windows display (I mostly do Photoshop and CAD, not gaming). In an animated game the pixels are completely imperceptible, and gorgeous. Standard 1080 HD at 32" is barely tolerable. I would say it’s the upper limit for pixel density.
I like to say that 2560x1440 is more like “a little less than 4K” instead of “a little better than 1080p”.
My rationale is that this is an extremely tight budget and if monitor is incorporated into it, it would be better to go for a less expensive, 1080p monitor and shift a bit of that budget over to getting a better PC.
That’s just my opinion though.
1440p is also a good option, as @positron mentioned.
Yeah, depends on budget. I am not planning to buy a 4k monitor anytime soon either.
ps4 pro linux cfw 4.70
Bruh I play GTA5 on a 2006 Mac Pro with dual Xeon 5150’s and a R7 370.
get on ebay or craigs list and find an old business ‘HP Pro 3500 MT’ they have an i5 3470 and usually 4gb ram.
everything in it can be swapped into a new case or upgraded so find some used ddr3. 8gb or 16gb in 2 sticks and resell the 2x2gb that comes with it. Then use your SSD and a shiney new case and bang in a 1050ti ‘asus phoenix’ is my personal one of choice as no extra power plug and re use the HDD in the donor hp pro for bulk storage. Since you have some bits in stock at home this should cost you a lot less than your budget and leave you $150 to $200 for a decent 1080p monitor
This will also give a lot more fps than a 2400g ryzen apu