I have been having issues with my motherboard for a while, and I think I have narrowed it down.
Currently I cannot save any settings that are CPU related. For example, I cannot turn off SMT, enable NPS0-4, Turn off Virtualization, etc. The CPU that is in it is a 5995WX.
I can, however, make any other changes in the bios and they persist. I have upgraded the bios 3 times and am currently on 1602.
Otherwise, the motherboard works fine. Even able to enable PBO, overclock the RAM just a tad.
ideas?
Copy down or export your current settings. Reset the BIOS to F5 defaults.
Shut the PSU power off and the PC and pull the battery.
Short the BIOS reset pins or pads or push and hold the BIOS reset button for a minute.
Load a new BIOS on a USB flash drive and flash the BIOS. Boot and put back your settings or make one change to a cpu setting, save it and reboot and see if the cpu setting is reloaded to the state you set it.
Just sounds like your current BIOS is corrupted.
Ok, ill give this a try. This might be a larger endeavor. The battery is covered by 4 watercooled GPUs lol.
Try without removing the battery first for simplicity first. Maybe just reflashing the BIOS will fix the corruption after the BIOS reset.
Removing the battery is always the best choice to make sure all the areas of the BIOS get flashed and updated.
Look at your motherboard layout in the manual. The battery is in the upper left corner probably not visible because it’s under either the I/O cover shield or the VRM heatsink. Piggybacks on the M.2 WiFi module under the I/O cover. Page 14.
Certainly didn’t make for easy access.
This thread discusses the procedure.
https://forums.bit-tech.net/index.php?threads/asus-wrx80e-sage-se-wifi-motherboard-cmos-battery-replacement.385826/#:~:text=wolfticket%20Downwind%20from%20the%20bloodhounds&text=It%20looks%20a%20like%20the,from%20below%20to%20change%20it.&text=adidan%20and%20kenco_uk%20like%20this.
It is under the IO Cover. I can see it at an angle. It has wires running to it instead of being soldered on the board. Ill work on getting the board pulled out and thrown on a test bench. I need to get a heatsink so I can test without all the water and connections.
Is the lead terminated in a plug? Do I see a possible socket right under the WiFi shield?
I have reset the bios, pulled battery fpr a while, reflashed with 1602 bios, set the numa setting to nps4. When saving it reboots sticks at C2 for a while which seems standard, does a hard power off, then reverts back.
https://1drv.ms/v/s!AnGdIsjlgdZco6wjK7r6KStEWJRWgA
This is a link to the video i started recording right after it rebooted when i saved the bios settings.
Before that i went through the instructions verbatim again. The set cf setting on the cpu to nps4.
I’m pretty much out of suggestions. Sounds like the board is defective or something.
This being an Asus board and AFAIK, all of their BIOS’ follow the same look no matter desktop or server, so I would think the BIOS has the same Ctrl-F2 option in the Save Profile menu to save the BIOS settings to a Flash drive.
I would do this and then print out the BIOS settings. The printout shows every setting in the BIOS and much, much more than what is presented in the GUI menus.
I would examine the printout for any values related to the cpu and specifically for the NPS4 setting you set to see if it in fact did set the value or whether it defaulted to NPS1 as default.
The saga continues. I bought a new board and it does the same thing. Came with bios v1106 and i tried with that version and updating to the last one. Same issue
Ok getting somewhere… went dow to 1 stick of 128gb ram and it saved. Going to work up to the 8 sticks and see what happens.
If I have 7 sticks or less, I can make any changes in the bios and they stick. If I add an 8th, the bios goes into something like a limp mode. There is a hard power cycle and everything goes back to defaults. I tested with different sticks of RAM to rule out a bad stick. If I remove a stick (regardless of location) I can go back in and save everything and it works fine. I am not sure if it is because all 8 channels are populated, or the fact that it is 1TB of ram.
ended up sticking 8GB sticks in there, and with 7 sticks its fine, 8 causes it to not actually post. might have been incompatible ram. the 128GB sticks are on the QVL.
Very similar to this:
[SOLVED] 5995wx on ASUS WRX80E-SAGE with 1TB memory installed goes into an infinite Q-Code loop - Hardware Hub / Motherboards - Level1Techs Forums
Definitely looks like the launch issue BIOS in the linked thread. Assume you are running the latest BIOS and AGESA?
Yes 1602 bios. Im going to step through each bios revision to see if any works. Also i want to do a test on mempory performance with the bios in its current state, and then with all sticks in to see what im really losing.
MLC tests:
2933 8 sticks:
Measuring idle latencies for random access (in ns)...
Numa node
Numa node 0
0 101.9
Measuring Peak Injection Memory Bandwidths for the system
Bandwidths are in MB/sec (1 MB/sec = 1,000,000 Bytes/sec)
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using traffic with the following read-write ratios
ALL Reads : 145936.7
3:1 Reads-Writes : 143753.0
2:1 Reads-Writes : 144256.3
1:1 Reads-Writes : 144022.6
Stream-triad like: 143363.2
Measuring Memory Bandwidths between nodes within system
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Numa node
Numa node 0
0 146001.6
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00002 1133.95 145674.0
00008 1126.70 145822.6
00015 1109.68 146102.7
00050 1104.11 145815.5
00100 1098.64 145994.3
00200 1118.87 146826.9
00300 791.72 149798.7
00400 219.77 144579.0
00500 148.44 117256.5
00700 132.81 84896.4
01000 126.61 60180.7
01300 124.19 46696.6
01700 122.68 35995.1
02500 120.75 24855.1
03500 119.94 17957.7
05000 119.36 12756.7
09000 118.79 7343.5
20000 118.64 3605.1
Measuring cache-to-cache transfer latency (in ns)...
Local Socket L2->L2 HIT latency 20.9
Local Socket L2->L2 HITM latency 21.5
2933 7 sticks NPS4
Intel(R) Memory Latency Checker - v3.11b
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Numa node
Numa node 0 1 2 3
0 91.1 98.4 106.6 110.7
1 101.5 91.2 110.8 106.7
2 110.8 110.7 94.3 98.3
3 115.6 108.1 98.5 91.2
Measuring Peak Injection Memory Bandwidths for the system
Bandwidths are in MB/sec (1 MB/sec = 1,000,000 Bytes/sec)
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using traffic with the following read-write ratios
ALL Reads : 141651.8
3:1 Reads-Writes : 132322.0
2:1 Reads-Writes : 130754.3
1:1 Reads-Writes : 128917.0
Stream-triad like: 131371.6
Measuring Memory Bandwidths between nodes within system
Bandwidths are in MB/sec (1 MB/sec = 1,000,000 Bytes/sec)
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using Read-only traffic type
Numa node
Numa node 0 1 2 3
0 40417.5 40029.2 20094.2 39105.9
1 40038.0 40419.1 20020.2 39455.4
2 39448.9 39094.3 20504.3 40033.7
3 39096.1 39409.3 20236.5 40394.7
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00002 1024.67 141725.3
00008 1006.17 141886.5
00015 1007.82 141886.7
00050 989.27 142161.9
00100 988.84 142265.0
00200 974.03 142357.2
00300 887.89 142518.6
00400 157.64 132450.9
00500 134.29 110038.9
00700 122.83 84392.2
01000 117.62 59757.6
01300 117.33 46344.5
01700 114.16 35855.0
02500 111.61 24719.8
03500 110.72 17893.5
05000 110.31 12733.8
09000 109.59 7358.1
20000 109.11 3637.7
Measuring cache-to-cache transfer latency (in ns)...
Local Socket L2->L2 HIT latency 21.8
Local Socket L2->L2 HITM latency 22.1
3200MHz 8 sticks:
Intel(R) Memory Latency Checker - v3.11b
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Numa node
Numa node 0
0 97.3
Measuring Peak Injection Memory Bandwidths for the system
Bandwidths are in MB/sec (1 MB/sec = 1,000,000 Bytes/sec)
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using traffic with the following read-write ratios
ALL Reads : 155069.1
3:1 Reads-Writes : 153334.9
2:1 Reads-Writes : 153752.9
1:1 Reads-Writes : 152770.5
Stream-triad like: 153322.5
Measuring Memory Bandwidths between nodes within system
Bandwidths are in MB/sec (1 MB/sec = 1,000,000 Bytes/sec)
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using Read-only traffic type
Numa node
Numa node 0
0 157662.0
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00000 1036.00 157030.8
00002 1026.92 157675.6
00008 1021.09 157817.5
00015 1007.19 158093.6
00050 996.49 157796.5
00100 1001.65 157992.3
00200 1017.02 159149.3
00300 516.50 163094.7
00400 166.61 144293.0
00500 137.88 116593.1
00700 127.48 84383.8
01000 122.63 59781.7
01300 120.68 46372.9
01700 119.29 35768.9
02500 117.68 24704.5
03500 116.96 17848.3
05000 116.47 12682.5
09000 116.06 7302.1
20000 115.65 3595.0
Measuring cache-to-cache transfer latency (in ns)...
Local Socket L2->L2 HIT latency 20.4
Local Socket L2->L2 HITM latency 21.4
3200MHz 7 sticks NPS4
Intel(R) Memory Latency Checker - v3.11b
Measuring idle latencies for random access (in ns)...
Numa node
Numa node 0 1 2 3
0 86.1 94.3 102.5 104.9
1 97.0 86.8 105.9 101.5
2 106.0 105.9 90.4 93.8
3 109.4 102.0 94.3 86.1
Measuring Peak Injection Memory Bandwidths for the system
Bandwidths are in MB/sec (1 MB/sec = 1,000,000 Bytes/sec)
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using traffic with the following read-write ratios
ALL Reads : 151262.7
3:1 Reads-Writes : 141930.2
2:1 Reads-Writes : 140014.4
1:1 Reads-Writes : 137525.3
Stream-triad like: 140917.7
Measuring Memory Bandwidths between nodes within system
Bandwidths are in MB/sec (1 MB/sec = 1,000,000 Bytes/sec)
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using Read-only traffic type
Numa node
Numa node 0 1 2 3
0 43771.4 43267.6 21774.2 42204.0
1 43327.2 43734.8 21702.7 42598.5
2 42699.2 42255.3 22263.5 43312.6
3 42199.8 42612.6 21962.9 43762.6
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00000 941.82 152727.9
00002 933.83 153535.4
00008 931.81 152859.6
00015 907.62 153681.2
00050 895.66 153948.1
00100 898.67 153308.9
00200 884.63 154218.2
00300 452.87 154847.3
00400 138.60 133336.1
00500 125.76 110984.0
00700 117.06 84265.9
01000 112.67 59667.3
01300 110.24 46315.7
01700 108.83 35741.4
02500 107.27 24719.2
03500 106.33 17889.3
05000 105.86 12726.4
09000 105.28 7356.1
20000 104.90 3649.0
Measuring cache-to-cache transfer latency (in ns)...
Local Socket L2->L2 HIT latency 20.1
Local Socket L2->L2 HITM latency 21.4
and for posterity, I disabled SMT with 7 sticks in at 3200MHz
Intel(R) Memory Latency Checker - v3.11b
Measuring idle latencies for random access (in ns)...
Numa node
Numa node 0 1 2 3
0 86.2 94.2 102.2 105.0
1 96.9 86.8 105.9 101.5
2 106.0 105.9 90.4 93.7
3 109.5 102.0 94.3 86.0
Measuring Peak Injection Memory Bandwidths for the system
Bandwidths are in MB/sec (1 MB/sec = 1,000,000 Bytes/sec)
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using traffic with the following read-write ratios
ALL Reads : 154509.8
3:1 Reads-Writes : 144715.8
2:1 Reads-Writes : 142343.4
1:1 Reads-Writes : 141412.9
Stream-triad like: 145954.3
Measuring Memory Bandwidths between nodes within system
Bandwidths are in MB/sec (1 MB/sec = 1,000,000 Bytes/sec)
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using Read-only traffic type
Numa node
Numa node 0 1 2 3
0 44654.9 44182.8 22243.6 43001.9
1 44215.1 44638.7 22146.6 43501.0
2 43584.0 43167.6 22797.5 44188.9
3 43079.0 43518.7 22395.9 44572.9
Measuring Loaded Latencies for the system
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using Read-only traffic type
Inject Latency Bandwidth
Delay (ns) MB/sec
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00000 834.19 156275.5
00002 827.38 156289.9
00008 826.33 157328.2
00015 744.24 158142.8
00050 617.95 158830.5
00100 594.98 158729.1
00200 525.45 158833.8
00300 235.74 159443.8
00400 136.57 135694.7
00500 126.02 114362.8
00700 116.64 88620.6
01000 111.88 62833.9
01300 109.65 48674.4
01700 107.70 37644.2
02500 106.05 25992.2
03500 105.03 18811.5
05000 104.45 13379.7
09000 103.98 7724.7
20000 103.71 3821.0
Measuring cache-to-cache transfer latency (in ns)...
Local Socket L2->L2 HIT latency 20.1
Local Socket L2->L2 HITM latency 21.4