It seems that we will not get any GPUs for Gaming in 2018 / 2019 and we hopefully get new powerful NEXTGEN™ GPUs in 2020, so the next GPU released will be from Nvidia and depending on busy Raja is, maybe he gets some new silicon up and running.
I’m kinda dissappointed but then again… I really like the Ryzen / Ryzen 2 & Threadripper / TR2 and AMD really needs some products that actually sell and that AMD can profit off of.
I think your last point is the really important one. It makes more sense to compete in the mid range market with cards around 250,- bucks or less. Basically a new Polaris. They need to sell as much as possible
The idea of a multi-die GPU has been floating around for a while now and I think that is something AMD will try to pull off at some point… but not with Navi.
It really looks like anyone with a 980Ti, 1070, 1080, 1080Ti, Fury or Vega card won’t need to even think about the next card for another two years. And honestly when I look at what all of these GPUs are capable of … I don’t have a problem with that.
I don’t like the fact 2020 is the only time-frame we currently have.
So to go balls deep into the crystalbowl:
From the business perspective the choices from AMD were way more profitable then doing gamer GPUs for the highend exactly as you said. BUT if the NextGen™ GPUs are mcm GPUs like ryzen… That could be very interesting.
Navi is rumored for quite a long time ago to be an MCM GPU. And AMD already have the technology. I mean the infinity fabric is a thing for a couple years now and with GDDR speed it will be crazy fast…
But those are just speculations you know. There is no news or anything about Navi, so until they say something I kinda don’t want to hype myself.
Most gamers i know aren’t buying 1080TIs. They aren’t even buying 1080s. The sweet spot is the 1060-1070 level and that’s what AMD are aiming NAVI at (or rather the 2019 equivalent performance).
If you think that the only people gaming are running GTX1080s and up you’ve got a pretty warped view of reality. Or maybe your circle of friends is very much in the top 10-15% of gamer hardware (worldwide, i mean).
Most people just aren’t.
We’re at an interesting point now too. Even stuff like an RX470/480 or 1060 is plenty good enough for 1080p in almost everything.
The stronger cards are good for 1440p, 4k is still a stretch unless you’re going ultra high end. And I’d argue faster frame rate at 1440p > 4k for most stuff.
Most people are still on 1080p and it is “good enough”. Outside of the fringe fanatic crowd, people just aren’t running PC games at 4k.
I bought a 1080Ti because I wanted to not touch the graphics card unless I wanted to for years. And this was back in October when you could actually get them at sorta reasonable prices. That being said I am looking at Ryzen 3 in 2019 and would love to toss them more money with an AIB Navi GPU but the latter is to be determined if it makes sense.
Yeah, i’m on crossfire vega 64, but people like us aren’t the typical PC gamer…
There’s plenty of buyers for lower end hardware…
My perspective was rest somewhat after a friend brought his kid round to have a look at my system and get some advice for his first PC build.
I showed him my 1080 Ti & 980 Ti systems and was suitably wowed.
However when I pointed out my HP desktop in the front room had a half height 1050 Ti installed just to run my Zwift virtual software for my exercise bike he was like “You have a 1050 Ti JUST to run that!”.
Of course to a typical kid that would be a big investment or present and not the “good enough” GPU I’d considered it.
I gave him some advice and a Xonar 7.1 DX sound card as something to get his own system started with.
One of my friend is running a 1080ti, everyone else is running GTX970/R9 270X or slower.
500 money units is about what the typical person spends at max for their PC. So 2400G, SSD, HDD, 8GB RAM, PSU, Case. That is it, money up.
“We are looking at the MCM type of approach,” says Wang, “but we’ve yet to conclude that this is something that can be used for traditional gaming graphics type of application.” via PCGamesN
So, is it possible to make an MCM design invisible to a game developer so they can address it as a single GPU without expensive recoding?
“Anything’s possible…” says Wang.
MCM may be a thing but if it would be a thing then ISV and NUMA are the critical components and after that also the studios that make the games need to support that kind of thing…
MCM GPUs from Radeon 2025 you head it here first
also I read somewhere that Navi would use GDDR6 and I’m pretty confident to remember that there was an articel stating that you can oc gddr6 that is supposed to run at 16gbs to get to 20 fairly easy
AMD Radeon Pro V340 – 2x Vega 10 GPU Using An Multi GPU Solution
The card was quietly unveiled in a presentation given by Nick Pandher, Director of Market Development Professional Graphics at AMD during a Chinese press event. The card is one of the first AMD cards to feature 32 GB of HBM2 memory and is essentially 2 Vega 10s running in parallel. The graphics card is being purported as a virtualization solution with capacity for 32 users.
I’m gonna rename the Thread to require everybody to have strong tin foil hats