Im building a gaming computer for my friend but this is the first time im gonna use a AMD processor (AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE) and im not sure if it'll bottleneck the rest of the comp if I were to get an i5 or something. Gonna be gaming on a 1920x1080p monitor and thats all. Wanna run games above 30 fps ATLEAST. Heres the parts...
CD Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151256
PS: I also wanna know if the motherboard chipset limits the 1866 mhz on the ram, if not, ill switch to corsair 1600mhz cause it wasnt really affected by the price jump in RAM. Thanks guys!
You should not see any significant bottlenecks with that build. The 965 is older, but very strong for it's age. I strongly reccomend adding a hyper 212 evo and some arctic silver 5 to that build, I was only able to get decent fps in planetside 2, which is a very CPU demanding game, after I OC'ed mine to 4.0ghz and increased the NB to 2400mhz. Also, that motherboard is not great in terms of features, and I have heard that OC'ing is not great on it. The http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873 Will be somewhat better. If that is not within budget, a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130637&Tpk=msi%20970a-g46&IsVirtualParent=1 Will also be better.
I went with this motherboard despite how it looks because of its particularly beastly specs. Also, yes I do realize that the motherboard does not have native support for RAM of that speed, yes I also realize that the 1600 MHz RAM that didn't clash to an absolutley horrible degree with the board also costs about the same. And the cheapest 8 GB kit of 1600 MHz RAM is also around $47 if you can believe it. I also went with the matched brand for the graphics card, where the Radeon HD 7950 gives you the best performance for this budget. Usually I prefer the Radeon HD 7870XT, but I get the feeling that with the next batch of drivers, the higher number of stream processors and texture units and unified shaders and universal render units will come to dominance again. Plus it has more VRAM, which is always nice to have around. Corsair power supply is only suitable for one card, if you want two, you'll have to look for around 850W, which is just outside the budget.
Important note: The Phenom II X6 is a locked multiplier card, but it can be overclocked with relative ease by tweaking the system bus speed in conjunction with the RAM speed to system bus mulitplier, which is not locked. I say it this way because as you raise the system bus you will also raise the RAM speed, which will often have a negative effect on the stability of the rig. Another thing to know, the memory controller is actually in the processor here, and the native clock speed for it is at eitehr 1066 MHz or 1333 MHz, I think it actually depends on which socket it's plugged into (AM3 vs AM3+.) Anyway, go on youtube and look up some overclocking guides for the AMD Phenom II X6 non-black editions and they will all work about the same.
My God, you people need to get some knowledge about HW or just shut up.
Phenom II 1045 is a non BE cpu, meaning you cannot OC it using multiplier, but only with FSB which means that in real life he can get 3Ghz max with that cpu.
3 Ghz for todays games is less than minmum (Asssassins Creed 3 requires 4,5GHz Sandy Bridge to get the full gpu usage, f.e) and missleading and telling the guy to buy it (for todays term crap) is insidiously if you know smt about Hw or just stupid if you dont.
He cant even oc ram to 2133 Mhz with that cpu, and I wont even waste my time in telling how ram speed means shit in fps
Again your ignorance has no limits (stupidity also), in OC-ing using FSb is purely random thing in most of the cases is just about 3GHz (sometimes even less).
Fx6300 has high default clocks and unlocked multiplier and he can go 4GHz + which he could only dream with 1045.
Gigabyte 970A-UD3 has 8+2 power phase also, but I do know that I am wasting my time explaining this to your empty head, cause a smart man would have checked it and wouldnt make an idiot out of him self even more.
Personally i would be worried if you said my build was good... LOL
"And since when is an 8+2 power phase a bad thing to have, even when not overclocking?"
I'm pretty aware that the GA-970A-UD3 has an 8+2 power phase as it is one of the boards that I considered buying when I was building my PC.
Furthermore, I know plenty about the 6300 as I was also considering that for my build, but I went with an 8350 instead. I am not an idiot. I know about the overclockability of the 6300. 4ghz on a 6300 is cake.
And I've just read at least five cases where people easily passed 3GHz. So please shut the fuck up. Take your annoying, childish attitude elsewhere.
"And since when is an 8+2 power phase a bad thing to have, even when not overclocking?",
otherwise you wouldnt have used that as an argument if you knew Gigabyte has 8+2. maybe you even did know that, but that only makes even a bigger idiot in this discussion.
Alas! all of the discussion is visible, so people can see and laugh.
Toast...Miskonius, PLEASE stop debating and calling eachother idiots, it does not make this community look any better. State an opinion and stop. Lol, and if you know you are right, post a link to a couple sources politely. I am tired of seeing such hostility between members of this website.
Also, debates like these destroy my lungs with laughter xD
And yes, I had than Phenom II a while back, and was able to push it to 4.3GHz. Just thought I would throw that in there...
I'm still not sure what you're getting at. There is nothing wrong with buying a board that has an 8+2 power phase when you are not planning to overclock. It's called having the option to upgrade. If you buy a 4+1 power phase now, and a weak processor, and later decide to go for a better CPU, but you also want to overclock, then you also have to replace your motherboard. Makes a lot more sense to get a better mobo now.
My argument states that having a motherboard with an 8+2 power phase is a good thing. Even when not planning to OC, and that is why the GA-970A-UD3 is a good choice.
Either you suck at reading or you're just stupid. Do I need to spell anything else out for you?