Zen 3 Ryzen 5000 series announcement (reactions, thoughts, concerns)

The Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming X is indeed a decent board as well.
However and now i will be picky again, its not worth its price premium over the x570 taichi.
Because they are pretty much the same board.
The only additional thing the Phantom Gaming X has is an additional 2.5 realtek nic.
So i don´t really think that nic alone justifies it’s price premium.
Because at that price point there is also the X570 Aorus Master from Gigabyte. :slight_smile:

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all the ads

What ads ? Ublock goes a long ways… :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Can´t wait to see some real world benchmarks of those new chips.
Just to see if their ipc gain turns out to be true.
And making them worth paying extra for at this point in time.

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Mine has an intel nic. That’s odd.

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The X570 Phantom Gaming X has both a 1G intel nic,
and a 2.5G realtek.
And the X570 Taichi only comes with the 1G intel nic.
But the price premium over the Taichi is a bit steap i guess.
But of course prices could vary per country.
And it´s also a matter of personal preference ofc.

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Also on a side note, from my honnest opinion.

People shouldn’t really spend more then $350 to max $400,-
on a main stream motherboard really.
I don´t think that spending more on a mainstream board really makes allot of sense,
for the simple fact that mainstream is simply too limited in pci-e lane expandability to begin with,
to really justify their rediculous $500,- + price premiums.

But that is just my opinion of course. :slight_smile:

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I do not like spending more than 200 unless ultra premium and niche abilities.

Amd is guilty of skewing mb market in this regard.

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Agree, there are also decent $200,- to $250 price point x570 boards,
that totally run the Ryzen 9 chips with no single problem.
But those boards are kinda slightly limited in features generally.
So unless you don´t really care for enough usb connectivity etc,
and you mainly just want the cores and the raw cpu performance.
Then those good $200,- ish boards like the X570 Tomahawk etc will be great bang for buck.

Or hence even certain $170,- to $200,- ish B550 boards.
On which some of them are actually pretty feature packed,
for the physicaly limitations they basically have.

I’m really looking forward to see what the upcoming refresh x570 boards might be upto.

With the most common GPU on steam being intel HD graphics, intel fans are cheap asses. :joy:

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Im kinda buying a cpu but I want a ripper

the threadrippers

guess those will launch before or after intel tries to launch 11th gen ?

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You mean “kicks it out the door”


Uhhh, I think Intel’s trying to do March or February.

AMD announced in July 7 for R3k, and Nov 7 for TR3k. So, maybe we’ll see January/February? Maybe.

Everything’s in limbo because of the coof.

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reckon they will keep the same socket or or make a new one for the zen3 threadrippers?

No idea. Wouldn’t surprise me either way.

I could see them aiming for 2 generations per socket on threadripper. But I’m also not sure.

2.5G is a waste of money and PCIe lanes.
Why?
Just get a 10/25/40/100GBit card. 2.5G is a miniscule upgrade and 10G is so cheap.
There are now USB 3.0 to 2.5G adapters making built in 2.5G even more useless.

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USB to 2.5G? Really? Now that’s fairly hacky.

Add in card for networking? Now that sounds like a waste of lanes. Each and every system has onboard nic, might as well get the board with the nic you want.

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I would get a board with the nic I want, but there are none.
I want at least a SFP+ port, and there are no motherboards with that.
That’s why I am looking at the Taichi because it has an extra x4 slot from the chipset that I can use to add the NIC that I need.
2.5G is a waste of money. And I tested the USB3.0 adapter on my laptop, it works quite well (QNAP QNA-UC5G1T). But I am using at least 10G basically everywhere.

What do you need 10G for? I’m guessing you do some sort of network video processing or something like that.

Well, you’re fairly ahead of the curve, nice.


I’ve gone the NAS route, but with the storage density of SSDs, it makes more sense, IMO, to snag a 1G board, throw a bunch of M.2 or SATA high density storage into your rig and just operate that way, rather than rely on high bandwidth NAS.


That should be fine. You’ll get 3.94GB/s peak which is plenty for a 10g nic.