I am interested to find out whether people here think Zen based server chips have a good chance at catching up to the Xeon servers that intel has dominated with for a long time. And am curious about what people think about Intels Xeon architecture going forward... can AMD even keep pace in this market?
All depends on the pricing. They can compete core for core and clock for clock. The high end skylake based xeons are something like 22 cores and 44 threads. The Zen stuff should be able to get up to at least 16 cores and 32 threads on a single chip. Possible 32 cores and 64 threads. Assuming that they can roughly match the clock speed of the xeon stuff, and is priced in line, then yeah. It should be able to compete just fine. Which one will be better for what? I can't hardly know.
32 core 64 thread was confirmed by amd. and they showcased the 8 core around the same ipc of 6800k. if the 32 core is about the same ipc then the price will be the deciding factor. they showcased a dual zen motherboard a week ago, and their have been rumors of quad cpu motherboards. if they keep the am4 board cost down and the amd cpu's are cheaper then their intel equivalents then they could take over the market again.
If AMD can struggle back to average it will be a major coup for their team. They are not headed to faster, better, cheaper but they may be headed to good enough and cheaper. This could put a bit of price pressure in on the low end commodity hardware. Big question will be whether this will be profitable or instead will speed their demise. AMD has no wiggle room. They need to to increase their market cap and do it profitably.
Well...... Do you want 12 or 32 cores? 3.2 GHZ or 4? 10 MB cache or 18?
I'd want more space for more processes and active branching taskmanagers in my datacenter CPU's, but I wouldn't be able to afford PPC. So I would buy AMD instead. The "Modules" design is a lot nicer than the basic core design task manager wise. Each group of cores gets a task manager and it throws branched tasks into cache (this is one of the reasons the original Athlon XP's and other K7 based chips were on top),
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For highly multithreaded tasks, 32 core at 3.0 GHz will definetly have a nice little edge compared to the 24 core. The leaked and confirmed quad cpu boards will definetly be a plus for AMD.