Windows Defender False Positive?

It appears that windows as of today is putting out a false positive? Anyone else getting this?

Win 32/Hive.ZY

All of my windows systems are outputting this detection.

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https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/protect/forum/all/win32hivezy/939e9c4f-2cec-4330-b908-824758ac1baa

Looks like a botched windows defender definition.

I get it when opening anything based on chrome.

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Good to know, thanks for the update on this one :wink:

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I haven’t had any issues. I’m running Chrome constantly and have been downloading apps left and right today setting up some stuff. No issues on Win 10 pro 21H2.

It is either windows or windows defender update that caused it.

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Probably the same news bht more of it in case.

Windows software being f#%ked up enough to show false positive?
Thats nothing new!
Antivirus and " security" software often flags their competition as virus and malware.
Think about it, micro- sith wants you to use their browser so they have exclusive rights to your data, so the sith antivirus is going " find" a virus definition in their competitors software.

… Except

Ms use chromium to run their browser and VSCode too so this would have caught them too.

To be fair to Microsoft, and derail this thread, but they don’t seem to be that bad at gimping competitors.

They seem to release such bad products that one Needs to go to a third party for a lot of things.

Then they aggressively promote their own tools as if they compare.

And add ads.
Which is nice.

I am not surprised their defender mistakenly identified their own systems, as they messed up the QA department years ago…

Umm it was detecing edge. Edge has been chromium based. I dont have chrome, i use edge…

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The problem lies with too many engineers working on a project in module mode.
Sure it gets software developed much faster but at what cost?
Not enough r&d, short deadlines and little to no beta testing.
Quality always suffers, requiring endless security patching.

And what do you get with unending update schedules?
Undoing your privacy settings, undoing your adblockers, and way too many attempts to wrest control of your computer from you. And in some cases completely borking your system.

Dont get me wrong here, I was a microsoft user for a long time( Since before windows was ever developed)

If it wasnt for the above issues I would still be using it.

Okay sure, but that has nothing to do woth your earlier statement which was just wrong. So like whats your point.

It happened and was fixed, it sucks it happened at all for some people, but there is no anti competitive behaviour, it effected MS the same with multiple programs.

The point is no software should ever be put into production without complete and total testing, and that takes time.

Sure an os can have problems, but if you cannot fix them ,where is your control of a situation.

Try to understand i programmed industrial automation equipment for a living.
You had to be absolutely perfect or the result was usually equipment damage or in the worst case scenario quite lethal…

Now for other purposes ( data handling, logging, research, & gaming) its not that crucial, just damn inconvenient

So ill ask this question ,If you are writing a control program for a machine or medical device do you want a buggy os to work with?

There is probably a stupid reason that the defender is flagging other windows apps, most likely because of little communication between developers.

You and i both know that is a fantasy in any reasonably complex system.

I agree they should be, but also realise that problems can grow exponentially with every other interacting piece if software.

So just “testing” will never catch them all.

I work in an industrial setting.

We have machines that will very frequently fail because the software is so old and there is no one to maintain it any more. That that has to run in a VM on newer hardware… Yeah good luck getting all the testing done for every eventuality.

Yeah it was Hive.ZY, its literally in the articles which i am sure you didnt read now. It is the same sud process that got Chrome flagged as got Edge and VSCode flagged because they all use the same library. So it was not random and again none of this was anti competitive.

This really looks like yiu are just having a go at MS, which we all do, but in this case, you are just wrong.

No not having a go at anyone so please dont read that into it.
A botched up virus definition is just an example.

Linux is not perfect either nor is macs.
Was their communication between developers, probably not much!

So what is the excuse for the screwup?
We’ll never know.
What other circumstances effected it?
You dont know because there are way too many variables.
How many times have updates caused driver installation errors?

The point i’m making here is regardless of whether the os is linux, apple os, or windows,
When corporate lawyers and bean counters control a company, it is inevitable they will cut corners to increase profit margins.

So what if the end user suffers for it!
As long as their screwups dont cause physical harm then we as consumers are purely S.O.L.

I for one would like to know the answer for the screwup, but its a fat chance we’ll ever find out.

And to add to this debug catches a lot of errors if used correctly!