Like the title states, why is this the case with this board? It is absolutely unobtainable.I have literally had to contact gigabyte directly and apparently you can only get it via there “server distributers”.
This is the only board that truly has the potential to meet all of my needs too. Go figure.
What’s the feature set it has nothing else does?
Is this offer any good to you?
Found 20 retailers in 2 seconds. Probably half of them shipping EU-wide.
One of the least rare boards I’ve searched for in the past months.
@wendell Hey Wendell! Before diving into the reasons I just want to thank you for the many helpful videos you have been making over the years. I love your enthusiasm and detailed video reviews on the verious pieces of computer technology that have come out over the years.
Anyway that said, The Gigabyte Wrx80 WRX80-SU8-IPMI (rev. 1.0) Is the only threadripper pro board that actually has the thunderbolt header that allows compatibility with the gigabyte titan ridge card. Why that is important is that the thunderbolt 3 card i have been using for some time now on threadripper trx40 is thunderbolt 3 and backwards compatible with thunderbolt 2 & 1. The thunderbolt 4 cards can only do thunderbolt 4 and 3. I have a thunderbolt 2 audio interface that only works with thunderbolt 3 or lower.
@dazagrt Thanks for the link dazagrt. I have seen this board and no it is not sufficient because it does not have the thunderbolt header i am looking for to my knowledge. It as well just seems to be geared more towards server use vs the WRX80-SU8-IPMI (rev. 1.0) which has a bit nicer looking cooler on it and a proper consumer facing webpage with features listed and verified thunderbolt support.
@Exard3k As mentioned above the board I am referring is The Gigabyte WRX80-SU8-IPMI (rev. 1.0). See if thats “the easiest board you’ll have searched for in months”. As far as i can tell the only way i can get it is if i buy from a seller in Isreal on newegg or random sellers on ebay most of which are in china. The few in USA are either priced a little too good to be true or flat out are heavily used boards.
I get the impression this board has been discontinued and support/development was stopped very early on; I don’t see threadripper 5000 support listed for this board.
That too good to be true store looks to be Boxx’s ebay store, they are likely unloading them at a good price because they can’t build system with them due to lack of threadripper 5000 support.
It was released for TR 3000 series and was outshined even then by the ASUS competition from what I’ve seen. When was that? 5 years ago? And outside of new revisions, you don’t do multiple production batches if you can avoid it.
That’s why I linked the MC62 because it’s the only recent board Gigabyte has.
My memory might be alittle fuzzy, but I had thought all the TR pro 3000 series motherboards got BIOS updates to support 5000 series TR.
The fact that this board didn’t get that update would make the single production batch theory more likely
edit: this board=WRX80-SU8-IPMI
The ASRock wrx80 is built in tb ?
@twin_savage It looks like i really will have no choice but to make this asrock board that @wendell mentioned work. I do see the lack of listed support for threadripper 5000. I was wanting to run some experiemnts and seeing how far i could go but its is clearly far more work than its worth. Thanks for the helpful input.
@Exard3k That makes sense. Why you linked the gigabyte board i mean. The Gigabyte Wrx80 WRX80-SU8-IPMI (rev. 1.0) seems to have been around for about 3 years tops.
@wendell I have the asrock board. I actually just went back to the store and picked up a Threadripper Wrx 5995 from microcenter again. I have 14 days to see if i can get this system operational with the marked specs i am supposed to be getting.
I do not know if it is because I have so many varying pcie devices and monitors or what but i cannot seem to get my marked Hdd speeds in windows 11. Do you happen to know anything about this? When i plug in my 3 gpus and 9 monitors and have the 2 nvme drives populated on the motherboard in the computer i am geting absurdly low transfer speeds. As low as 50 mbps. WHen it drops that low the cpu usage seems to jump up to around 30% as well.
I do not really understand why i am having so many issues getting normal speeds as it pertains to file transfers on this asrock board. It seems to fucntion beautifully as far as how quickly it picks up on what i want to have connected to the computer on a hardware level aside from thunderbolt .
I am using 256 gb of gskill trident z neo ram matched ram from my trx40 system. I know you have said that ecc is the way to go with this board and the pro chips but would having non ecc ram really cause this kind of an issue ? This issue is driving me crazy, i’ve never dealt with an issue quite like it before.
As far as the asrock board and thunderbolt is concerend, this board has thunderbolt 4. My audio converteres are thunderbolt 2 based. Thunderbolt 4 devices for windows do not support thunderbolt 2 apparently…even with adapters do to how its desinged.
from the research and test i have conducted so far It seems to be the case that thunderbolt 3 has a controller that allows for thunderbolt 2 and 1 compatablitiy. Thunderbolt 4 devices only have backwards compatiblity to thunderbolt 3.
If thunderbolt 4 devices do work, it is likely because they are on macs which apparently have 2 controllers for backwards compatibiltly. Interestingly enough my interface isnt working on my new m2 macbook either,but the computer still can at least see it were on the thunderbolt 4 asrock threadripper machine it cant see it at all.
I am about to start from the ground up testing file transfer speeds and slowly introucing one component at a time into my system so i can get to the bottom of why i am having such unstable file transfers. IF i can get this asrock board to work 100% i would be very happy. It seem to be a great board. As far as my audio converters/interface i am just going to have to upgrade it finally.
IF you guys have any thoughts or ideas as it pertains to these bandwith issues i seem to be having on a system with 128 lanes, feel free chime in, and thanks for all the comments / feedback so far. Its been a long arduthious task getting this system to work but im not giving up.
Sorry to interject here, Im the one who directed @KittyNour here as I have been attempting to assist with this for around a week now over the phone. I have little experience with thunderbolt or with threadripper class systems and being a linux user who hasnt used windows beyond for firmware in a number of years I figured this may be the best place
The current system specs are
CPU: TR 5995wx
RAM 256gb of Gskill trident z 3600mt/s
Motherboard Asrock Creator WRX80 R1.0 with the intel nics
Cooler: Noctua NH-u14 TR cooler
GPUs: RTX4090, RTX 3060ti, and GT1030
PCIE Cards: Dual Intel 1gb NIC (1000e range chip idr exact chip), and USB add in card
Thundebolt devices: Sonnet Echo Express SE IIIe and TB2 Audio device with 32in/32out
Card in Sonnet: 2x 4k capture cards, camlink 4k and one other i think Elgato?
Storage: 6 NVME PCIE4.0/3.0 drivers, 2x Kingston KC3000, 1 Samsung 980, 1 Seagate NVME (idk which one), 1 WD, and another im not sure of
Monitors: 9 monitors ranging from 1080p-4k in a variety of refresh rates up to i believe 120hz on the 4k display.
Current primary issues with the system
When all the monitors are connected NVME speeds are around 50-200mb/s, with fewer monitors speeds are more consistent and hit around 3-5gb/s but still frequently sits around 50mb/s-200mb/s. During file transfers the system will stutter and hang slightly.
TB2 audio device doesnt exist as far as the TB4 on the Asrock is concerned and the Sonnet enclosure causes BSODs if connected when rebooting
If it’s convenient to test, you might try dropping the refresh rates of all of the screens to a common 60. Or had that already been tested?
Do you know if the nvme drives are connected through the chipset or directly to the CPU?
I was going to say something similar line of thinking to this, to the effect of to go looking for the block diagram. There is usually one slot share bandwidth and only one full nvme connection to the CPU and the others hanging off the chipset, things like that.
To expand further, with some motherboard layouts you might be better served with a pcie adapter to get into a different path to the CPU.
I just wanted to thank everyone for there suggestions. I am still having the weird hdd issues but it seems that if I cancel the transfer and restart them a couple of times the issue of the cpu maxing it self out seems to resolve it self.
It’s an odd quirk and I am wondering if the issues are relating to how windows handles all of the cores on the threadripper chip. Needless to say the system is up and running so I am just happy to be able to get back to work. Thanks a lot for the assistance everyone. This is a great forum.
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