[UK] Raspberry Pi 4 8GB actually available for purchase (stunned)

They dont care. They are riding on a legacy and milking the shit out of it

On top of that selling a 400 dollar keyboard sbc combo. Their objective and MO is a clear. They arent a friend to the maker community.

400 dollars can get me a toaster of a laptop thats 100x faster :joy:. I can just 3d print a case for that if i need compute

It’s always been clear, it’s right there on their website

Raspberry Pi Foundation is a UK-based charity with the mission to enable young people to realise their full potential through the power of computing and digital technologies

Selling SBCs at huge margins is funding a lot of good stuff.

Generally, for what most people buy them for, an old optiplex will do, others, a knockoff Chinese board will accomplish the same thing, pi foundation need to get off their high horse before someone else becomes the next raspberry pi

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…and what exactly is that? The only thing going were video support which Rockchip, Amlogic and Allwinner also have just as good or catching up to so there isn’t much left for the Broadcom SoCs especially since they don’t have publicly available documentation.

Old desktops even in stand by will draw more power from the wall than an RPI going full tilt.

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Words are one thing. Actions are another. I appreciate them trying to be charitable but they need to quit with the profiteering bullshit. They had no exploiting the increase in price full well knowing their cost of manufacturing. Also novasty was hella accurate too. The software aint doing too hot lately

Its not just us. See below:

The difference between 65 watts sff desktop PC which will spend most of its time idle due to increased compute power and 7-10 watts of a full tilt rpi on your electric bill is literally going to be negligible. I know from experience.

Particularly in the US. It may make more of a difference where electricity is expensive.

@Novasty and I discussed this in length and much to my dismay hes right. It doesnt make much difference

Adding further insult to injury. The used pc market keeps getting newer and newer every generation and we are getting closer to when they switched over to mobile processors and when the older mini pcs will be on the used market for cheap drastically closing this gap. While arm chips are using more and more chasing performance

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Yeah, each one of those SFF PCs can be useful on its own also. If you dismantle a cluster of 8 raspberry pis, then you’re much more limited in what each individual system can do.

Maybe it’s just me, but the idea of putting something together like a pi cluster and expecting it never change has never really worked out.

Debian 12 only just came out. Why would you want to be so far on the bleeding edge? Personally all my systems are still running 11

I must be out of the loop, what $400 keyboard SBC Combo? The Pi 400 which sells for $100?

it was 400 during peak scalp period.

Its good that it came down but its no excuse that they raised that price. You could get it on amazon cheaper though

Calling debian bleeding edge is kind of a joke. Debian stable never is. SID okay ill give you that

They neve raised that price… I’m not sure you understand how scalping works

Raspberry Pi never increased the prices of their products, scalpers bought up supply and sold it on for more. The official price is not $400

That $400 is not going to Raspberry Pi, but some random guy.

I’m meaning for Debian itself. The great thing about Debian is how stable it is, so what’s the urgency to get on 12? 11 is still supported

The Raspberry PI Foundation is producing a lot of them and have been the entire time. I recommend to watch this video where Eben Upton the co-founder talks about this quite extensively.

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last i head they prioritize companies over hobbyist when the hobbyists made them what they are.

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Just watch the video I am not going to transcribe it for you. He literally explains all this in the video, there is no need for people to form opinions without having a basis for them or repeat unfounded talk they heard somewhere on the internet when the Foundation has extensively explained why they made their decisions. Sometimes when you are too lazy to get informed it is better to not have an opinion and refrain from discussing a topic.

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na im good 40 min not worth it. they could ensure supply if they wanted to for people who need 1 or 2.

Thats also a thing. IDK people are going to vehemently defend them. The conversation will go nowhere and obviously neither opinions are going to change.

Its nice to see it becoming available again but as I said before. Id prefer the compute module in a blade config

Ive been following this project

Do you even internet. I hope you realize that while your right thats never going to change and expecting it to will be perpetual disappointment

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Well…this escalated :roll_eyes:

The only contribution I have is abou this

Sadly in my country (UK), that’s a yearly cost difference of nearly £500. I could do a hell of a lot with £500, like go on a Mediterranean holiday for 2 weeks (a crappy resort of course). Or a fairly half decent ‘general admin’ laptop brand new. Or even an attractive call girl for the evening (no touching though).

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