Think I have a dud 3080Ti, you tell me

Hi everyone,

Think I have a dud card or insufficient PSU. Want to run it by the forums. I have a GeForce RTX 3080 Ti VISION OC 12G which is under warranty. When playing certain games where the card would be under full load the computer will reboot randomly. This was the case for both of the machines listed below. No OC, no funny stuff.

Tested in updated W10 and Ubuntu MATE. Most recent drivers for W10 and nvidia-driver-510 on MATE (the newer ones caused a weird screen flicker but that’s a video for another time.) Used DDU on W10, reinstalled drivers, etc.

Now the card DOES work when I enable active State Power Management function (ASPM) on the Aorus Master. At this rate I was just praying something worked and this appeared to.

The thing is, I have no idea what it is. Manual is light on detail… No idea if it is limiting power draw, something that should be on by default, if my card should work without it, etc etc.

Let me know your thoughts on if its GPU/PSU, whatever the hell ASPM is, and if I should bother with Gigabyte support. I have heard horror stories. Engagement challenge, tell me your experience.

System #1:

CPU: 11600k

Mobo: MSI MEG Z590I UNIFY

Ram tested:
Ripjaws V DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18-38 1.35V 32GB (2x16GB)
Trident Z Royal DDR4-3600 CL16-19-19-39 1.35V 32GB (2x16GB)

PSU:
NZXT C750 750W 80 PLUS Gold (1yr old)

System #2

CPU:11600k

Mobo: Gigabyte Aorus Master z590

Ram tested:
Ripjaws V DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18-38 1.35V 32GB (2x16GB)
Trident Z Royal DDR4-3600 CL16-19-19-39 1.35V 32GB (2x16GB)

PSU: Corsair RM850 — 850 Watt 80 PLUS Gold (1.5yrs old)

Thanks for the advice,

WWED

edit: Title & mint to MATE

I had random reboots and crashes with my 3080Ti on a (what I think is) a perfectly good 850W PSU. Pretty much everything about my system is different from yours, apart for being a 3080Ti. Nothing in the Windows system logs, nothing in the UEFI helped. Then I saw the Gamers Nexus vid about power spikes on high-end Nvidia cards.

Replaced the PSU with a 1000W version and the problem totally went away.

Bottom line: You might need to use more than a 850W PSU with a 3080Ti under heavy load.

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I had a suspicion of that but why does it work with The power management function, that’s what I can’t wrap my head around too.

I was talking to my friend when that video came out and how nVidia and the power supply companies are both using the bare minimum of capacitance and blaming the other. I mentioned how I had seen people DIY capacitors in right at the power connector and there would probably be an aftermarket for some ungodly RGB power conditioner and he showed me that they already exist:

They don’t have one specifically for your card, but I’m thinking this is going to be the future for graphics cards. Buying an absurdly oversized PSU for those odd fractions of a second of increased current draw is going to hit a wall when you can only draw a maximum of 1800 watts from a 15 amp branch circuit at 120 volts.

Yea,

I just tested it again with three outcomes.

Worked
Crashed
Crashed when opening the performance hud from GeForce Experience while not under load.
Can crashed just now in game not under load.

Power limitation, probable
But something really feels like it can be the card too.

Nbd throwing down the cash for 1000W but I’m sure if I want to be future ready that pci5 bill is gona hurt.

Any recommendations on PSU?

Which brand

I’ve heard a lot of things that I’m not sure are true or not

NZXT oem is seasonics……
Corsair is the best……
Some of EVGAs are good some are trash…

Never know anymore

Both my 850W and the 1000W are mid-range Seasonics. So that’s one data point, inconclusive as it is.

Hate to be a pain, what model/line of seasonic it’s worth me looking into.

It seems like the EVGAs are on fire sale. Hopefully someone comes around with info on that.

Fuckin reduced the power draw to 90% and it still crashed

I tried reducing the power via Afterburner too. Didn’t help.

I bought a Seasonic FOCUS GX-1000, 1000W 80+ Gold, Full-Modular, Fan Control in Fanless, Silent, and Cooling Mode, Perfect Power Supply for Gaming and Various Application, SSR-1000FX.

It isn’t even close to the most expensive one. It may be the cheapest. But it does have a 10 year warranty.

It’s worked for me, but there are a lot of choices out there and I couldn’t necessarily recommend one reputable brand over another.

Prices seem to have gone up on PSUs (like everything else). :frowning: 1000W PSUs don’t come cheap these days.

Want to follow up here after a long time of troubleshooting in case it helps anyone prior to spending more money to potentially fix a problem.

Windows implementation is something to be desired when setting power limits on graphics cards. They don’t seem to be honored, or at least in my case. Tried via 3 different methods. It may also be me.

Linux is a little bit of a different story

via nvidia-smi I was able to knock the power limit of the 350W base power of the card to 200W and then incrementally 250W, stable.

From the command line did so with

sudo nvidia-smi -pl 200

If I remember correctly monitored power consumption via

nvidia-smi -pm 1

or

nvidia-smi stats -i pwrDraw

or some variation thereof.

tada, stable.

Conclusion, power supply. Thanks Nvidia for the power draw. 1300W Super Flower psu for $180 on the way. Overkill on purpose, have some other things in the mix.

Last to note, this might be game by game specific. When reducing the Power Limit to play the Witcher 3, I saw minimal change in performance. I may be speaking out of turn as an idiot but I wonder if the game isn’t the most optimized. where the heck is the next-gen release cdprojekt red

Hope this helps someone as the internet is riddled with information. Hopefully this works as a quick check before going own the rabbit hole.

Best,

WWED

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