The POWER and PowerPC General Discussion / News Thread

FaunCB · September 4, 2019, 4:43pm

More than dead lol

THEkitchenSINK · September 4, 2019, 5:54pm

@Mastic_Warrior

Mastic_Warrior · September 4, 2019, 11:27pm

Interesting. Now that they are cheap, “GCC 10 Compiler Drops IBM Cell Broadband Engine SPU Support”.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-10-Drops-Cell-BE-SPU

FaunCB · September 4, 2019, 11:31pm

Gcc is trash use clang or die.

Mastic_Warrior · September 5, 2019, 12:13am

I am a GCCer. I have not tried LLVM/CLANG since 4.1 but man was it a pain to use.

If I am mistaken, I don’t think LLVM/CLANG has any optimizations for Cell BE. Sony used BSD for the OS, but they used their own modified version of GCC plugins to code and debug PSGL.

q66 · September 5, 2019, 2:07am

do you have anything to back that up, or is it just “some guy said that”

THEkitchenSINK · September 5, 2019, 2:12am

@q66
installed fine boot fails what do?

Mastic_Warrior · September 5, 2019, 2:20am

I think you need to rotate the computer 90 degrees counter-clockwise. I think it is low on CPU Oil.

THEkitchenSINK · September 5, 2019, 2:20am

i have a portrait monitor makes reading ez

Mastic_Warrior · September 5, 2019, 2:21am

There is your problem, as Lord Jobs would say, “… you are viewing it wrong!”

FaunCB · September 5, 2019, 2:23am

I’m half of a meme ignore me.

I just don’t like RMS

q66 · September 5, 2019, 2:58am

dunno

there shouldn’t be much of a difference between live and actual boot, and live already comes with the latest kernel… the only thing i can think of is the hardening features enabled on kernel cmdline (page_poison and slub_debug), try editing the menu entry in grub and removing those

THEkitchenSINK · September 5, 2019, 3:00am

i can get other distros working in yaboot but i cant get yaboot to load in void

q66 · September 5, 2019, 3:01am

yaboot is dead, i don’t support yaboot, i won’t support yaboot

chances are it won’t even load ELFv2 kernels and stuff, and since it’s dead, there’s nothing that can be done about it

just use grub

THEkitchenSINK · September 5, 2019, 3:04am

time to learn

q66 · September 5, 2019, 3:06am

there really is nothing to learn, all you need is a sufficiently large bootstrap partition (i.e. not 800k, give it a few megabytes at least) and then grub-install /dev/sdXN where sdXN is your bootstrap partition

then you need to manually bless the right directory and stuff since grub-install does not do it by itself:

hmount /dev/sdXN
hattrib -t tbxi -c UNIX :System:Library:CoreServices:BootX
hattrib -b :System:Library:CoreServices
humount

The installer will do it all for you so you don’t even need to do any of this if you use that

FaunCB · September 5, 2019, 3:06am

I would like to note they are not on stock OFW, but rather updated to 2013 openBIOS.

THEkitchenSINK · September 5, 2019, 3:07am

@q66 its been fucky
spoofed the firmware update in osx with the best of my ablity ob to act as 5.1.5f2 it installed fine and osx worked fine linux is acting up

q66 · September 5, 2019, 3:09am

probably works the same, if it can boot OS X, it must work the same

though maybe it could be more of a SLOF style thing with a PReP boot partition, dunno (the installer supports that too, installation methods can be forced with like, PPC_FLAVOR=mac, PPC_FLAVOR=chrp, PPC_FLAVOR=opal on environment when autodetection fails)

FaunCB · September 5, 2019, 3:11am

thats… interesting. Where to look up SLOF docs?

Edit: NVM SLOF is on github. Never knew!