Ryzen short cuts

Well I just got my system back from the shop and all is well. I realize everything Ryzen is evolving now but could we as a very smart community pool to a database the standard mean so to speak on what to expect on this platform ?

It is like herding cats I know. I assume it would need mods and support to manage BUT.

I have an ASUS x370 PRO MB and a 1700 with a wraith cooler. So I flipped a UEFI switch TPU = II and my 1700 is running 3.75MHz and 4 days in stable. Maxing the CPU got it to 74-76C under linux with everything else set to auto.

Considering the internet is about sharing. Is there a place focusing on Ryzen and making the most of it or could or should we even try.

Im all about going solo....Im a google hound and will sniff out every comment ever made on the internet if it will help ME. Should be bother trying to stabilize the platform yet or is it too soon ? I know Ryzen PRO just was announced.

Just curious what people think ?

once my board comes back from rma-land, i'll contribute :smile:

before the uefi update failed, i had 3.85GHz on a 1700 with the stock cooler. this is a MSI B350 PC MATE board.

When you get the RMA back, ensure that you have a fan pointed directly at the VRM. In all likelyhood that is what killed your MB to start with. It is an easy matter to get the VRMs up to 150 deg C under a load with a 1700

If you are considering a cooler upgrade to an AIO, consider a Cryorig A40. It has a small fan on the water block that you can point directly at the VRMs

thanks for the advice.

i doubt it was a heat issue. temps tended to get no higher than 60's on the cpu, and a little less on the motherboard. i don't have temps specifically from the vrm, but they were in the airflow.

when i get it back, i'm going to put a cryorig c1 on it, so there will be even more direct airflow.

as for the death itself, so far have no evidence it was anything other than a botched uefi update.

Well the vrm implementations on B350 boards are all pretty poor from i have seen till now.
B350 boards shouldnt really be used with R7 cpu´s, especially not wenn overclocking.

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Maybe this helps:

This may be educational regarding B350 VRMs. The guy who made this video used to be on the Asus Overclocking team and does know his stuff.

absolutely, i should have gotten a better quality x370 board. that was a mistake, and yes, upgrade is on my short list of things to do. only meant to say that i doubt this had anything to do with my particular problems.

Yeah well i have done vrm analytics on motherboards and video cards,
pretty much since the X58 era of motherboards.
i have looked into most of the B350 board vrm implementations.
And all i can say is, they are all very poor.
I’m very dissapointed seeing the actual components that are used,
in the vrm implementations on B350 boards.
And also some of the actual layouts of said boards are not very great either.
But yeah of course there is a reason why they are that cheap.
I just dont recommend to use an R7 cpu overclocked on any B350 board really.
But rather just invest a few bucks more and buy a decent X370 instead.

List of best Ryzen AM4 X370 boards in order to buy.
Based on vrm implementations and feutures.

  • Highend:

1: Asrock X370 Professional Gaming.
2: Asrock X370 Taichi.
3: Asus Crosshair VI Extreme.
4: Asus Crosshair VI Hero.
5: Aorus X370 Gaming K7.
6: Biostar X370 Racing 7.

  • Midrange:

1: Aorus X370 Gaming 5.
2: Asus X370-F Strix Gaming.
3: Asus X370 Prime pro.
4: Asrock X370 Fatality Gaming K4.
5: Asrock X370 Killer Sli.

  • The best of the poor B350 boards in terms of max current capabilities on the vrm.
    But they are still pretty poor regardless.

1: Msi B350 pro gaming carbon.
2: Msi B350 Krait gaming.


Its been awhile now with my RMA system. I only flipped one thing. Since it got back

Even with VM’s and gaming at the same time which I wanted struggle to hit temps of 50C.

The problem is I run an RX 480 so from the benchmarks I see I dont dont need to overclock the CPU anymore regardless and its hardly trying. Maybe I am over shooting to all the tech tuber testing with 1080TI’s that I wont have that performance for 4 years when it down to $200USD.

Im tending to agree with you. It seems like new gen CPU’s now there are core wars need VRM cooling and MB makers are use to just putting cool looking plastic over them so clear cases look good and it’s biting them in the arse.

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I agree 100%

I really don’t understand why none of the manufacturers have not worked out that there is a a market for a higher end B350 board with a decent VRM. The Asus Strix board comes closest but it still leaves a bit to be desired i think.

There is room for a bit of price overlap between high end B350 and low end x370. Give me 6 sata ports,some more USB, a decent VRM and BCLK adjustment and I would consider paying $150 for a good b350 board. I dont need the SLI functionality but as it stands now, to get what I want, I have to go x370.

Unfortunately, because of the years of piledriver that only the budget end of the market would consider, the manufacturers are still stuck in the budget mindset when it comes to designing boards. If Im honest, it still seems to me that all the Ryzen boards in design language terms are about 4-5 years behind where say a z270 board is.

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z270 is OC-capable, premium-ish chipset, which compares more with x370 than b350, imo. Design-wise, I’d say the prime x370 pro is pretty decent no frills offering, but memory support isn’t where it should be.

Uhm … running ripjaws V 3200 at 2933 on 4 x 8GB. Sooo, it’s not that horrible.

grateful for the data point. :wink:

Yeah i´m kinda dissapointed about that aswell.
A higherend B350 board would have been nice.
Maybe we get some better B350 boards in the near future who knows.
Ryzen is really starting to become a succes formula as it seems now.

Yeah of course it depends allot on which particular platform,
and what kind of motherboards you look at.
vrm heatsinks on certain boards are really a laught yeah.
Especially on the lowerend entry level market.
Believe me, motherboards with decent feuture set for cheap are cheap for a reason.
And that reason is pretty much allways the vrm implementation.
Thats why i allways recommend to not cheap out on a motherboard too much.
The motherboard is still one of the most important parts of a system imo.

B350 and x370 are also OC capable. You are right, the designs are “no frills”. That is exactly my point.

I am not saying that Ryzen is in anyway bad, just that the design language is about 5 years behind Intel boards.

Remember that these are the first boards for AMD that natively support USB 3,
They are the first boards that support PCIe 3.0
The VRMs for the most part are lacking compared to intel.
No Thunderbolt,
No Optane/Micron equivalent support

In terms of features, they are not really any more advanced than a z77 board

Well A88X fm2+ boards also had pci-e 3.0 support.
This was the platform for the Kaveri apu´s and such.
But am3+ boards for FX series processors didnt indeed.