not awake enough to properly answer/respond to this comment from valve/steam. but thought i would share for you to enjoy while having coffee this morning
Looks like a honest answer to me, why did you contact support in the first place? What system are you running?
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Garuda Linux(KDE Dragonized Gaming Edition) https://garudalinux.org/
and i was posting about how stellaris got broken. first noticed on sunday, fixed it myself. then it got broken again on monday, and then again on tuesday… this wasn’t the first response from valve/steam in the thread, nor was that the first set of logs that was sent too them.
I don’t think there is a single company supporting all Linux versions and DEs. It’s just not possible. Valve mainly developing for Ubuntu compatibility isn’t that new.
And this is related to the game or to the launcher? Or the Paradox launcher? Most stuff breaking is caused by developers. And there is no guarantee or support for Arch Linux on Valves side, other than SteamOS itself. What does Paradox support say?
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paradox wasn’t contacted over this. have you played stellaris? it would be easier to understand if you have atleast a passing familiarity with the gameplay.
in this case, the leaders aren’t loading. whenever i click on a ship or fleet or even just the government tab it visually looks like there is no leader but when you dig or look in a bit you see that there is a leader there but the asset/“moving picture” just isn’t loading. since i figured it was a “steam for linux”/proton thing, i contacted steam for support. there is also logs in the “thread” showing timberborn having issues as well as city skylines(but this could be mods)
Were you using the Linux version or the Windows-Proton version?
Oftentimes for non-Ubuntu derivatives, the Windows+Proton is the superior experience. Have you tried switching to that?
I checked out protondb.com and it seems to have a Gold rating with mostly ok performance
proton. i just use it “by default”. i usually don’t look to see if there is a linux-native version of the games i play… sadly i stopped looking after all the disappointment
You could also try to use the Native Linux version if your patience has not yet worn out.
Also may we know your GPU and if you are using X11 or Wayland?
1000+ hours actually. So I’m familiar with the basics.
Steam is a retailer. They sell you games and provide software to launch them. If some patch breaks stuff in the game because your Mesa, amdgpu or you’re running wayland, etc…a retailer doesn’t know or officially sign updates nor do they know what system you run. Referring to “that’s what we test things and eliminates most of the problems because that’s our baseline” is an honest answer.
Paradox is great on Linux in general and most titles run better than on Windows. CK3 being an exception and V3 had some teething issues at launch, but they take Linux seriously. Doesn’t mean they can test their builds on all distros and dependencies.
I’d just rollback to a working snapshot regarding your configuration. I’m on a rolling release distro too (Tumbleweed) and in those rare occasions, I rollback and update two weeks later and everything is usually fine. Stuff breaking is the price you pay for leading edge.
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The latest patch notes (3.9.3) for Stellaris have the following as one of the bugfixes:
It’s possible this has caused an issue with your particular config. I guess you could roll back to 3.9.2 and see if that resolves. If it does, I’d raise a bug report with Paradox. It’s very unlikely to be Valve’s problem.
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in my notes, 3.9.2 still had that issue on wednesday when i did a full nuke and pave. thanks for the idea though
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In linux-land, folders and files are case sensitive in regards to naming. In Windows, it does not matter.
Ran into that issue in various programs before…
Just to put in my own experience/suggestion - I’ve always run Paradox stuff native (other than ancient stuff), and never had a problem. I doubt there’s any reason to use Proton with those.
And here I thought this thread was going to be ranting about all the ways the latest major Steam UI update screwed up the Linux client! A little disappointed… (although come to think of it, maybe it has gotten a bit better since then…)
I actually like the UI uodate, my only gripe is that it doesnt seem to do UI scaling with GNOME (at least). My laptop has an ungodly PPI but steam poops out at 100% only and wont do 200% so Im clicking teeny tiny things for the UI
The design is fine for the most part. What I meant is it literally broke a ton of stuff that worked before. I still can’t run in “small mode” without the sub-context menus (when you right click) dismissing the entire context menu. Hard to explain if you don’t see it, I have to navigate the mouse outside and around any context menu options which open a sub-menu, otherwise it’ll close the top level menu.
It’s also noticeably slower to render when you change tabs or change view modes. And there was a problem (which may be fixed now) where it wouldn’t render one of the tabs at all (Community I think) and you had to switch to another tab first before it would render anything. They basically ruined the Small Mode view after half the community revolted about it being removed recently. lol So now I have to run that thing in “Large Mode” all the time just to keep it functional (for some reason that context menu bug doesn’t show up in that mode).
I think they REALLY don’t want people using that “Small Mode” launcher view anymore. I guess they want more space to blast annoying ads and other junk at you. I’ll get used to it though, it’s not the worst they could’ve done.