While its not a really discussed thing on the forum. there is a need for printer knowledge.
A small hub for printer knowledge sharing, repair, modding, privacy, and more. while this is normally a one time buy item and forget it exists. many people have high demands for printers and good ones at that.
As has been shortly discussed in the cringe thread having a place for printer discussion may be useful for some office techs here.
I used to be a Cannon* repair specialist for a non profit out side DC in Maryland. We received government surplus to be repaired and then donated to low income familyâs. some times we got large office printers fax copy print, those printers where known the be hell to work on for the little documentation that existed. Cannon proactively made it hell to fix these printers dmcaâing pdfâs of the repair docs and requesting you pay them for a tech to repair. Cannon also took measures with the Hard drives in the printer to firmware lock out repairs. Low level binary copyâs of the hard drives had to be made to get around this issue if a drive was to fail and they FAILED.
from that time as a printer repair specialist, i was tasked to set up pos printers (i hate thermal printers), Cannon, Hp, Xerox, and brother printers.
I WOULD ONLY RECOMMEND OLDER HP laserjet printers those things are rocks they would require extreme beating to fail and the only bad failure you would see if not beaten is paper rollers getting gunked. those printers are the gods of printers. i would avoid pretty much every other brand for repair costs and aftermarket toner costs.
plus xerox has a big hand in MIDC which puts unique identifiers for printers by printing micro dots in yellow on pages. this would be bad for those who are whistle blowers and need extreme anonymity.
I work helpdesk at a small to medium sized company. All our laser printers are HP. Our copiers are mostly Cannon, and under contract. We donât touch the copier machines beyond verifying itâs borked and calling support.
I know very little about the laser printers. I got into this job with no real IT field experience and no IT related degree. Just a âI like computers a lot and Iâm good with hardwareâ got me in. I do wish I knew more about printers, as Iâm usually intimidated when a ticket comes in about one.
I did take over the label printer maintenance and repair role at this job, though. Again, no experience with them before. Just mechanically inclined and figured them out. Now I perform all PMs and repairs on the 40 or so Zebra label printers in our building. Once you figure out what theyâre doing you realize they are actually very simple machines and thereâs only a handful of parts that actually go bad or wear out.
this is true for the hardware of most printers when you start getting to the large format and high volume printers there starts to be shitty software that has so many bugs that printer âfirmwareâ its self with a bit of knowledge could be the ways to shut down entire offices. Hp has been working on this in recent years by actually making a custom low level âprinter operating systemâ Futuresmart
this will not solve the repair issues (i have) but more a security hole patching method for newer printers, as holes are found. older printers are mainly firmware+driver bam it prints.
that firmware has probably never been updated with many printers needing to be networked this can lead to EXTREME issues fast. using a rpi as a print server with correct security this quickly becomes a non issue⌠until you are working in a government office, public library, and or public network. which tend to use these old networked printers that have never seen a update ever. i remember a old xerox machine mining lite coin once.
laser printers are a whole beast unto them selves repair of printers as a trope has always been the person on the bottom of the food chain because of the hell they are. [insert toner explosion feet outline]. paper jams from these printers was common from government surplus as the reason it needs repair. taking apart the printer finding the gunk and cleaning with 40% alcohol (no not drinkable because the rollers could melt if you used the wrong cleaners) most jams are from the rollers becoming mush or being stupid dirty.
if the laser printer was also a copier/scanner the hell continued. finding replacement scanner lights, motors and power supplies, adapters was a living nightmare of flipping through recycle centers for a week to have enough donor parts for the next month or so. those huge 5 add on scanner printer fax combos power supply those fuckers⌠when one failed i spent at least a good month tracking one down for replacement on a 12000$ printerâŚ
Tried being a printer repair tech for HP while I was in between jobs. It lasted one day:
They sent me two hours on my dime (there were closer techs) to a truck stop. The truck stop had nowhere to repair the printer at, so I ended up doing it in the mechanicâs waiting room.
Random kid kept taking screws and throwing them. Parent wouldnât do anything about it.
And, every 15 minutes and Indian call center kept calling me even while I was driving to the location. I left so I would show up 30 minutes early to the site. They wouldnât stop calling me even when I wasnât yet supposed to be on site. They were not polite, some of the call center guys that called would even yell.
After about 45 minutes of working on replacing the feed system they called again.
I snapped, I was only being paid $60 for this job and I had to pay for a tank of gas. I told the Indian where he can forcibly insert the printer and left with it still partially disassembled.
Had to repair the infeed of a card printer once. The roler that is supposed to clean dust of the cards ripped appart a bit and got stuck in the allignment section.
About 2 hours of taking out plastic (!) screws and tiny gears led to 5 hours of cleaning sticky stuff out of rollers. No fun, -2/10 would not recommend.
I cast reanimate zombie on this dead thread.
Sorry to bring this 6 year old thread back but I want information from people who arenât just reddit yahoos or people trying to sell me somethingâŚ
I want a color laser printer and every single thing I find on Amazon or elsewhere mentions their apps, the cloud, or toner subscriptions. It makes me feel like Uncle Teddy or, at the least, as angry as Louis Rossmann.
I just want a color printer that isnât going to gouge me in ink prices, be dried up when I finally print something, and is happy playing by Battlestar Galactica rules (i.e. it will never see a wireless or wired network connection, no apps, no QR codes, just a USB to a Debian VM running CUPs)
Is there a particular model of older color laser that still has non-chipped toner available on Scamazon for a reasonable price? HP was mentioned above but I was hoping maybe by reviving the thread we could get people replying with particularly good make/models so we can all keep an eye out for them on eBay/flea markets/etc.
I bought a USB only Brother laser printer back in 2017 for like $40. Only downside is itâs B&W. Still using the starter toner it came with. The only bad thing is the Linux driver. It works but not great. Really wish a color version existed.
I agree that laser is the way to go, and I have an older Dell laser that works, but I would occasionally like some color without the ink being dried up or ink as a service, etc so I want a color laser. Thing is, I have no idea what would be considered a decent color laser. New ones seem to have all the issues of modern technology (subscriptions, apps, etc) so I was hoping for people to say " I have a Wendell Model 123 color laser and you can still get toner really cheap on amazon" then I can start looking for used on ebay, goodwill, etc.
that still fits in my comment. Ricoh and Brother should both fit your needs. the older or âmight find at goodwillâ even should be fine as they are both pretty acceptable of using 3rd party or reman toners. find the cheapest of those that fits your needs.