No one is being forced to used Nvidia.
No one is being held hostage to Nvidia.
No one is vendor locked into Nvidia.
Itâs really difficult to take some of you seriously when you spew stuff like this. Fluff or not, this is a good thing and a step forward in the right direction.
Everyone starts somewhere. Whether itâs a round robin kernel, or a calculator app, or documentation to assist with development.
Ever heard of CUDA?
So is food for hostages.
Yeah?
Why does my AMD processor only work in AMD boards? I am oppressed and vendor locked. I hate AMD now.
Nah definitely not with you there. You donât have to use cuda for anything really, but it is certainly beneficial in some of them. And that is not being locked in that is just a choice you have to make for your self.
Sorry, if you are in the scientific community, youâre pretty much forced to use CUDA. Sure, youâre not FORCED to do it⌠Just like youâre not FORCED to work for money you knowâŚ
When you start using slavery analogy while discussing open source vs. proprietary software you are only discrediting your own arguments. Like @AnotherDev said, when you start throwing stuff like this to the table itâs hard to take your arguments seriously.
100/100 times you guys would say âMac sux, use Lynooxâ, but since itâs Nvidia weâre talking about itâs âOh poor Mac users 
â
Pro tip, donât use Mac for data science.
Lol dude, two steps forward and 30 steps back.
If nvidia purposely uses force to strip me of my freedom get me to use their cards then I will consider your analogy
Seriously though. This is a new low.
You want to know what other problems I have with the forum?
Heres a prime example. This should not be allowed to continue in my opinion. Its always toxic to discussion and there is no reason for it to be here.
@kewldude007 Iâm leaving this shit here for all to see.
If youâre going to make an absolute fool of yourself, Iâm not going to hide it.
@sceps you need to get outside.
This sort of FOSS zealotry is the exact sort of thing that makes this forum a miserable place to be. Everyone needs to do better.
Any further zealotry behavior will not be tolerated.
-Alpha supreme leader tsk
I dunno if itâs fair to simply call it FOSS zealotry. There are two sides to any argument. But it certainly got toxic in here and both sides got emotionally charged. And certainly people need to pick their analogies more carefully.
Especially that last part. I think that was the tipping point. Why throw oil on the fire with analogies like thatâŚ
Look, you can call it what you want, and I prefer open source software where possible, but fuck me, comparing proprietary software to slavery?!
I agree?
I have the same position as far as I can tell. I just have a wait and see opinion? Wow. Yeah. You guys are right. This forum isnât worth it.
The point is, Iâm sick and tired of people derailing a thread about X company that makes proprietary software doing something nice for devs to shit on them for not embracing Stallmanism.
In fact, most of the mods and leaders are.
/sigh. Just donât mistake that not supporting X company doesnât automatically mean theyâre a FOSS zealot. I think both sides are plenty over eager in their defense.
And to emphasize it once more, I agree the slavery analogy was on called for.
With all due respect, youâre somewhat new here, but the recurring theme is that any time Nvidia, Intel, or Microsoft does something open source itâs either:
- Too little too late
- Not good enough
- A lie/trick to hurt people
- A global conspiracy being implemented to steal our rights
Itâs always the same 10 or so people. Iâm being very generous right now, and using âopen sourceâ as an example. But, really, anything casting those three companies (among others) in a positive light gets derailed and shit up because they know, Iâm assuming, that the thread will get locked and itâs mission accomplished.
They are zealots and extremists in the worst sense. They might use their little free software but they donât stand for free software. They donât want open source, they want fascism and totalitarianism. If that seems exaggerated or hyperbolic go through the Windows section or Linux section and read some of the threads from a year or two ago.
It was so bad that several members (more than 10 or 15) have blocked the entire operating systems section because these people canât be reasoned with. Youâre missing a huge bit of context, and while the slavery thing was definitely new, the gun to your head and being âforced to use Xâ is not new and is the go-to for the most part.
Can we agree that any vendors contributions to open source or even closed source is motivated by profit? And that zealotry on any topic is annoying at the least?
Well no matter how you boil it down it sucks. Later.
(edit /sigh I wasnât implying that profit is evil. Just that itâs not exactly benevolent either)
If nvidia does something that benefits me, and profits on the way so be it, itâs a win win.
Any contributions by anyone to anything is motivated by profit of some kind. Anyone who suggests otherwise is lying.
Might be another discussion though.