NVidia or Intel, BSOD debacle

Hello All,

I am running a new Intel build and have experienced the dreaded random BSOD, overvoltage and high temps associated with i9-14900KS.

Updated to microcode 0x12B which reasonably improved issues with overvoltage which turned into high temps, fixed the high temps by adding 3 case fans.

Now I am hovering around 45 to 50 Celsius when gaming at 7680 x 2160.

Specs:
Corsair AIO H170i
Corsair Dominator Platinum 64 GB DDR5 5600MHz
Crucial T705 - 4TB
Intel i9-14900KS
Gigabyte Aorus Master X Z790 - Rev 1.0
Gigabyte Aorus Master RTX 3080 TI
Corsair AX850
Nothing is overclocked, no need (not using XMP)

Further investigation I am seeing this in .dmp files:

BSOD crash to .dmp file related to MODULE_NAME: nt

PROCESS_NAME: NVDisplay.Cont
BUGCHECK_CODE: 7f

ffffe584b46c5f80 fffff8017e793949 : ffffe584b46c6ad0 ffffe584b46c6710 ffffe584b46c6ad0 ffffe584b46c6210 : nt!RtlDispatchException+0x4c
ffffe584b46c61e0 fffff8017ea8ab45 : 00000000c0000005 0000000000000000 0000000000000028 0000000000000000 : nt!KiDispatchException+0xac9
ffffe584b46c68f0 fffff8017ea85c82 : 0000000000000000 0000002400d8070b ffffe584b46c73f0 ffffe584b46c73f0 : nt!KiExceptionDispatch+0x145
ffffe584b46c6ad0 0000000000000000 : 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 : nt!KiPageFault+0x442

  • The bug check code is 0x7f, which corresponds to UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP. This bug check indicates that the Intel CPU generated a trap and the kernel failed to catch this trap.
  • The faulting process is “NVDisplay.Cont”, which is a process associated with NVIDIA graphics drivers. This suggests that the issue may be related to the NVIDIA display drivers.
  • The stack trace shows that the exception occurred in the Windows kernel (nt) and was ultimately caused by a page fault (nt!KiPageFault+0x442).

TLDR;
Crashing, BSOD and reboots… strange BSOD and restarts during/after gaming. Seems Nvidia may be the culprit, not Intel with all the issues being seen. Computer is rock solid for productivity only starts behaving strange while/after gaming. Fortnite crashes often, Overwatch causes BSOD and random restarts occur while idling in-game resulting in above .dmp

Reaching out here incase anyone has experienced such issues with Intel/Nvidia combo. Any such recommendations on resolving this altogether. GPU driver updates seem to lead nowhere.

I think it’s the GPU, same issue with Intel i9-9900k build. The GPU causes the system to crash, BSOD and reboot.

I removed the GPU from the i9-14900KS build and am not having the crashing/BSOD… I played a game of OW and was fine… however starting fortnite the PC instantly BSOD.

No crashes when sticking to productivity with the GPU removed

mediafire file/uku28amtyiys17c/110324-7625-01.dmp/file

Have you updated to the latest nvidia drivers?

Is the psu new or used? If it’s used I’d suggest trying a new psu with a 900 watt rating. Granted your only up around 700 watt draw on that psu but having a little extra head room is not bad.

Hello @thetazman, to your point I reached to chatGPT for guidance and my findings on my power draw under a typical load are below. When considering gaming I think I maybe clipping the PSU especially at 7680 x 2160.

Would you be able to offer any suggestions to actively monitor the power draw via the OS? I have a Watt meter I can plug in between the PSU at the wall socket but am looking for a more granular approach where I can monitor each component to identify the culprit.

Thank you for following up on this!

Let’s add this to the previous calculation:

  1. Corsair Commander Pro: 0.96W
  2. Corsair LL120 fans (10): 36W
  3. Corsair LED light strips (9): 18W
  4. Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR5 memory (64GB): 20W
  5. Aorus RTX 3080 Ti Master 12GB: 350W
  6. Intel Core i9-14900KS: 253W
  7. Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master motherboard: 70W
  8. Corsair H170i AIO cooler (pump): 5.52W
  9. Crucial T705 NVMe 4TB SSD: 8.25W

Total power consumption:

  • Commander Pro: 0.96W
  • Fans: 36W
  • LED strips: 18W
  • Memory: 20W
  • Graphics card: 350W
  • Processor: 253W
  • Motherboard: 70W
  • AIO cooler (pump): 5.52W
  • NVMe SSD: 8.25W
  • Total: 0.96W + 36W + 18W + 20W + 350W + 253W + 70W + 5.52W + 8.25W = 761.73W

Updated to NVidia 566.03, same issues. Also failed to mention the PSU is brand new in this build.

Intel i9-14900KS Average power consumption of around 330W, with spikes reaching 410W is the result for power draw I got for this chip

Gigabyte Aorus Master RTX 3080 TI 290w to 450w with 330-340W being the normal running wattage is the result for power draw I got for this card

What this getting at is what is listed on the box for power consumption is at idle and what you need to look at is what max power draw is. Also keep in mind is that the 3000 and 4000 series of gpu’s had power connector / delivery issues 12 - 24 months ago and maybe an issue with that card considering it’s a rev 1.0 board.

The watt meter will tell you the full wattage the system is pulling from the wall and might get you closet to the total wattage the pc is using and not what chat gpt tell you.

I’ve always try to add a 200w head room to my builds so as not to be constrained by the power delivery system.

hardware info 64 will help with in os voltages
https://www.hwinfo.com/

Keep in mind this is just me guessing at what issue is!

@thetazman This is very good feedback and at this point I am going to first replace the Corsair AX850 PSU with a Corsair HX1000i

Whether this will resolve the issue is unknown however with the GPU removed the PC is much more stable

Second, if the higher wattage PSU does not clear up the instability issues I am planning to Warranty RMA the GPU as with two unique systems I am have similar instability issues pointing at the GPU

without the GPU installed and strictly renaining within normal loads for productivity purposes the watt meter is showing 84 watts…

I will reinstall the GPU which will hopefully remain stable enough to test the wattage at idle, during normal productivity and during high fidelity gaming.

I will repeat these tests with the new PSU, as long as all else works as expected… I’m also attaching some screenshots from the HWMonitor tools for the i9-14900KS system (no GPU)


Instead purchased a HX1500i, going to update you here in couple days with feedback

Is the second system of similar spec? And does the instability follow the gpu into the second system?

Yes just a few years older, here’s the specs of the other system which randomly turns off/reboots while gaming, but surprisingly does not BSOD, using the exact same graphics card in the i9-14900ks system:

  1. Corsair Commander Pro: 0.96W
  2. Corsair LL120 fans (6): 21.6W
  3. Corsair LED light strips (4): 8W
  4. Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 memory (32GB): 10/15W
  5. Aorus RTX 3080 Ti Master 12GB: 350W
  6. Intel Core i9-9900K: 200W
  7. Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master motherboard: 50/60W
  8. Corsair H115i AIO cooler (pump): 5.52W
  9. Samsung 990 Pro NVMe 2TB SSD: 6W

What I did notice today while using the power meter after placing the GPU back into the i9-14900ks system was gaming in OW:

60 hz @ 7860 x 2160 = ~250-275 W draw @ power meter
240 hz @ 5120 x 1440 = ~650-675 W draw @ power meter

I suspect I am cutting it close or crossing 850 W for more demanding AAA titles.

What’s more interesting I am still having crashing in Fortnite even when just loading the splash screen/menu, logs say oodle errors… I will open a new topic just for the fortnite issue…

Thank you again for all of your feedback today.

failed to mention for the i9-9900k system, this is using a corsair AX750

So I received the PSU today and will be connecting everything tomorrow. Haven’t had much in the way of crashing so far after re-seating the GPU.

So did the bigger PSU work?

i’m having simmilar issues with mu i9 14900KF.

Kept crashing while gaming, tried some other low quality games that can run on a potato and got a BSOD again.

SYMBOL_NAME:  nt!ObpCaptureHandleInformation+8a

MODULE_NAME: nt

IMAGE_NAME:  ntkrnlmp.exe

IMAGE_VERSION:  10.0.26100.2605

STACK_COMMAND:  .process /r /p 0xffffb60c6f4c70c0; .thread 0xffffb60c7ecc2080 ; kb

BUCKET_ID_FUNC_OFFSET:  8a

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  AV_R_(null)_nt!ObpCaptureHandleInformation

OSPLATFORM_TYPE:  x64

OSNAME:  Windows 10

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {b72937b5-0e37-7112-61db-ad72914b9f2e}

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