http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dJnpVn
Any one have any advice on this build? This is going to be my first computer, BUT I have done alot of research. I am going to be using the PC for video games, video rendering, streaming, etc. Any one have any advice? IT ALL IS MUCH APPRECIATED!
Updated with different memory.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9yFZqs
you spend an extra $50 and get much more in return ..very low latency ram and a 10yr warranty on the SSD and 5 yr and hard drive and one of the best mobos on the market (overclockers delight) ... just plug in a high end headset and game your @ss off
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ww3wCJ
The ASRock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard has overheat problems that you do not want to deal with. (power delivery to mobo is not up to snuff) and the CPU cooler doesn't perform as well ... and your memory is the wrong voltage
It indeed looks like you have done some research. Relatively balanced build, but I think you can do better for $2k.
So according to your build, it looks like you plan to:
Overclock
Upgrade to SLI
game, render, stream(according to original post)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qtC8xr <- turns out a lot cheaper.
You can also consider two GTX 970s right off the bat if you want. That would give you pretty killer performance.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8TrMyc <-still cheaper than $2k.
Things I changed:
CPU cooler: Beefier cooler for $5 more.
Motherboard: Two-way SLI is the max I'd go. This board has a nice 8 phase power delivery for overclocking, and can handle two cards in SLI. Also, it's cheaper w/ a combo deal from newegg.
RAM: 2x8GB because Intel's LGA1150 can't take advantage of quad-channel. No real need for 4x4GB, although you may have some trouble if you want to upgrade in the future due to possible incompatibilities with mixing and matching kits of such high frequency.
HDD: You can go with a WD Black, but Hitachi Deskstars are pretty high quality.
GPU: Didn't edit your build - just chucked in any GTX 980 for pricing. Choose whatever variant you'd like.
Case: H440. A full tower is not needed for a computer like this. Also, it matches the red+black scheme pretty well.
PSU: 850w is overkill. You can probably even get by with 650w with two GTX 980s, but I wanted some overclocking headroom so 750w it is. Cooler Master's VSM is high quality and great performing stuff - even higher quality than Corsair's RM line.
OS: No need for win8 pro. Regular windows 8 can handle 128GB of RAM.
Unless you really have to go with the best, I would say choose the GTX970. The GTX970 does really well at 1080p, unless you have a higher resolution display you wish to use.
Think about what monitor you want to drive, that would determine what resolution you would most likely run your games at. For example, my screen resolution is 1680 x 1050, a single GTX760 card can run everything at max setting at this monitors native resolution.
I just picked up 2 x used Sapphire R9 290 off eBay for $510 AUD. An older card, but good enough for me when I upgrade my monitor.
if you sacrifice long warranties and skimp a little on quality ,,, you can always build a cheaper machine. this build has no hassle upgrade capability an real world performance from the get go.. and is under budget by $100 so could go for the flagship Asus Z97 mobo and still be within budget.
if you want to game at 1440p I would recommend the GTX980 ... and yes you could go with multiple GPUs ... but that sometimes causes problems that are avoid by a single GPU
At 1440p, if you want to max out everything, I still believe that you should get at least two GTX 970s. A single card may work if you dumb down some settings.
Where am I sacrificing warranties?
Most of the things here have around 3 year warranties, which is pretty good.
you are probably right as always ... it will be some time before I ask to snatch the pebble from your hand ... Sensei lol
I do not have a 980 as of yet ... but I have been eating veggies from the garden and "road kill" for meat lately ... so soon I will have more answers lol
yes that power supply maybe too much. but, it is such a good deal that you can't refuse it. A good power supply can make you life easier trust me.
1. the hdd is expensive. I'd replace it with the green series which good for storage.
http://www.amazon.com/WD-Green-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B008YAHW6I/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1412939311&sr=8-4&keywords=wd+2tb
2. the graphics card got a crazy price. I'd replace it with the 780ti for 449.99 after rebate which should kick its ass by little bit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121838&cm_re=gtx_980-_-14-121-838-_-Product
3. replace the windows with the regular version.
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-8-1-System-Builder-64-Bit/dp/B00F3ZN2W0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1412853321&sr=8-2&keywords=windows+8.1
let me know what you think. Plus, do little research on the motherboard, see if it is stable and non-problematic and make sure the ram is recommended by the manufacturer. Personally, I have no experience in z97 boards.
happy building.
Ok, I do agree with you on the mother board that was my main worry, and of course the ram, with latency and volt issues.
YES! I do plan to overclock, a little, and in the future upgrade to SLI, and all the other activities you listed. And the only thing i would change in the first build, is the case, to a Fractal Design R4. I have been looking at just getting 2 970's, but if I was going to end up going 2-way SLI with the 980, in the future. I do agree with that cooler i have read a lot about Noctua, and I never hear anything bad about them, so I'm willing to spend money on those products. About the mother board, what about going with an Asus, which model would you recommend or is this Gigabyte good enough? I don't really need the high frequency, I'm just kind of in a conflict with RAM, I have never really understood it, and why latency is better when it is lower. Ok, I thought 850W would be a bit of overkill for the new series of parts that are so power efficient, I just put it in there because of the price and the future it adds. Whats really the difference with the, regular and the pro flavors?
THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT!! I really appreciate it!
Well the thing is, I do want to game at 2560x1440, but I will have to start out with 1080p, because I would have to save up a little bit longer for the 1440p monitors, and I will be wanting to run 2 maybe 3 1440p monitors, cause of streaming, one monitor for the game, the others for productivity.
Yes, that's what I thought about with the power supply but it's a really good deal ants it really future proof.
Ok, I agree with you on the one with the HDD.
How would the 780ti far to the 980 in SLI for multi-monitor setups. Cause I'd want to stream, and have a monitor for the game, and the others for productivity. I also want to go with 1440p monitors but, I will have to maybe start with a 1080p monitor, cause I would have to save up more before I get the monitors.
Do you know what the difference is with the different flavors of windows?
What about Asus mother boards? which model would you recommend? Or maybe a different manufacturer?
I do like your input, Thanks so much!
Valid points here, but don't get a WD green. They are only really meant for archival use. They are slow and the amount of spinning up and down to save power causes a high failure rate. Go with WD Blues (or stick with your Blacks) if you want western digital.
Ideally, you would want higher clocked RAM with as low of a latency as possible for video rendering.
With higher clock speeds comes higher latency though, but clock speeds usually outweigh latency when it comes to video editing. It doesn't make a difference at all for gaming, though.
Oh, ok that's understandable.
Ok, do you still recommend the drive you listed earlier, the Hitachi?
if you plan on streaming maybe go with a i7-5820k. Your budget definitely allows you to go with the Haswell-E platform. I have no experience in streaming, maybe one of the brothers here can tell us the benefit of Haswell-E over Haswell in streaming.
The GTX 700 series is going on sale right now. If you want a better bang for your buck go for them. A dual GTX980 will run you about $1200 which is out of your budget.
I know Hitachi has a good reputation in Hard Drives, The one listed looks reasonably priced. You can go for it.
As for Z97 boards. check this one out
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132132&cm_re=asus_z97-_-13-132-132-_-Product
saber-tooth series should be very reliable form what I've heard. Not that other boards will blow up in your face, but in the long run (10 years from now).
as for the windows, there is really no difference for the average user. Microsoft just want to make extra money by calling a version "pro".