Looking for opinion on 2 new Ryzen PC builds

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Hello everyone, my first post here and it’s been a while since I’ve built a PC (almost 4 years). Last time I’ve built 1st gen Ryzen build and it was very solid. Now is finally the time I’ll build new PC for myself and my wife.

There will be two machines. I’m running Fedora linux on mine and my wife is running Windows 10, so I don’t expect any problems there.

Builds themselves are very similar with a slight downgrade for my wife.

Fedora linux build for myself:

Case: beQuiet! Pure Base 600
Case cooling: 4 Fans (3 IN, 1 OUT)
PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 750W (80+ Platinum)
CPU: Ryzen 5900X
CPU Cooler: beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 (220 W)
Motherboard: MSI Tomahawk X570 WIFI
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32GB DDR4 K2 32GTZRC (2 x 16 Gb)
Storage:

  • /: Samsung SSD 980 Pro NVMe M.2 250 Gb (OS and apps)
  • /home: Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVMe 500 Gb (Data)
  • /mnt/ssd: Samsung SSD 860 Pro SATA3 1 Tb (Games and VMs)

Graphics:

  • Rental: AMD RX5700XT
  • Will be replaces upon availability: Sapphire Nitro+ RX6800

Windows build for my wife:

Case: beQuiet! Pure Base 500 DS
Case cooling: 4 Fans (3 IN, 1 OUT)
PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 750W (80+ Platinum)
CPU: Ryzen 5800X
CPU Cooler: beQuiet! Shadow Rock 3 (190 W)
Motherboard: MSI Tomahawk X570 WIFI
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32GB DDR4 K2 32GTZRC (2 x 16 Gb)
Storage:

  • C: Samsung SSD 980 Pro NVMe M.2 250 Gb (For OS and applications)
  • D: Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVMe 500 Gb (For Data)
  • E: Samsung SSD 860 Pro SATA3 1 Tb (For games and big media)

Graphics: MSI RTX3070 Ventus 2X OC

So basically my only “concern” about windows build is the MSI graphics card, I don’t really have any experience with MSI cards, but I don’t believe there should be any problems.

As for the linux build, mostly I’m concerned about the motherboard, LAN chip specifically. Seems like Realtek® 8125B should already be supported by Kernel 5.9 out of the box, WiFi is covered by AX200 so no issues there expected. I’ll have a rental RX5700XT in case of RX6800 support will lag behind.

If anyone can comment on the memory choice, I’d appreciate it. My previous build used HyperX memory and that was a nightmare if you want to switch from stock clocks.

I don’t expect any overclocking right away, so I’m looking for a solid experience in a stock configuration.

Looking forward to your comments and suggestions.

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You are correct to have concerns. The last few generations MSI have been hit or miss with their graphics cards. There was that whole awful 1080 cooler, that either overheated the card or made the fans spin like a jet engine. Then there was the entire 5700 series launch being disaster for MSI, and honestly, in the brief time I had been working with clients hardware I had a lot of issues with MSI GPUs in particular. They are trying to remedy that with their motherboards being pretty much awesome, but I would stay away from MSI when it comes to GPUs. Asus as well…

PS: one more thing about the fans… If you go the beQuiet fan route, make sure the fans are running at proper speed. Those cases are super restrictive and the beQuiet fans are running sloooow… Some of them. So make sure yours are proper fans, not one of those sub 1000rpm models that yes, run at 15decibels, but push almost no air…

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Thanks, I’m currently renting a PC from MSI with mostly MSI components inside, including MSI RTX2080 Super, I’m only using it for a few months, but in terms of acoustics and thermals it’s running amazingly well. I have a 60Hz 1440p screen, so I limit games to 60 fps with limiter or vsync and it is running nearly silent even though the case is open (see the picture)

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I have 3 more options right now to replace that MSI with:

  • ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX3070 Twin Edge
  • GIGABYTE GeForce RTX3070 EAGLE
  • ASUS GeForce RTX3070 DUAL-RTX3070-8G

Any of those are better option than MSI? My previous builds had ASUS Dual GTX 1060 and they are still running to this day with no problems, but based on reviews ASUS is also dropping the ball with TUF series and on MB side.

As for the cooling, on a paper beQuiet! fans looks competitive (CFM Vs dB) and I’m probably gonna go with 500 DS case for both as it has a great reviews in terms of airflow, so even slow fans should push enough air, but thanks for the tip.

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About those SSDs. Why have so many different ones instead of one big one? I would go for a 1 or 2 TB M.2 drive. I think having multiple drives is a hassle if you don’t need it. You might run low on space then you’re moving stuff to LVM (if it isn’t already there) and shrinking and expanding volumes. Or you’re copying subdirectories around and making symlinks…

Or with new Fedora using btrfs you have to copy something off to an external drive, reformat a drive, add it to a btrfs volume as RAID-0 for the extra space, make a new subvolume, copy your data back in…

Anyway, like I said, multiple drives can be a hassle.

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I’m using this 3 drive scheme for 4 years now and I don’t find it taxing. With 3 drives I actually always used just primary partition without LVM and it was working great. As for why separate at all, two reasons right now: current prices shows that doubling the capacity cost more than 2x in terms of price, at least for NVMe and generally I like when one drive’s operation does not influence the other. It’s actually less noticeable on Linux build, but very noticeable on windows. Keeping OS separated helps a lot during updates.

I would go lower on “primary” OS SSD, but looks like 250 Gb is minimum right now.

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Do you really want Samsung drives? For the price of a 500GB 970 EVO Plus you can usually get a 1TB drive from another brand with similar performance. Also what kind of “data” you have that would be on that 970 EVO? Of it were me, I would get a second 1TB nvme drive for games and VMs. Games won’t benefit much, but your VMs will love the nvme (I know my W10 VM does). Put that “data” on a 1TB SATA SSD.
For RAM, I always had good luck with Corsair and Kinston. Patriot and G.Skill where my go to brands when I lived in the States.

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I don’t know what I can get for this price, the closest I have is for 50% more money, I can get 1Tb Mushkin SSD. 1 Tb Crucial is already +60% and both of them at half of read/write performance of Samsung.
If I sort my selection of NVMe ssd, Samsung is at the bottom of the list price-wise and I never had a problem with Samsung’s storage, so it looks like a well rounded choice.

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Well those are theoretical stats. In every day use you probably won’t hit those numbers. Samsung drives are good and reliable tho, so nothing wrong with paying the premium.

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