It's time to upgrade/fix my PC but I'm a bit out of the loop

It has been awhile since my last post - thankfully my house did not burn down from my PSU failing. PC is fine with a different PSU so I’m currently sitting through the RMA process with Be Quiet.

I’m looking to move my PC into a smaller case and play a lot of Mass Effect Legendary Edition, Doom Eternal, War Thunder etc at 1440p. I do use VM’s quite a bit so more RAM helps.

I’m on Debian stable using the Sway window manager so I’d like to avoid Nvidia. Buying in the UK if that matters.

Anyway here’s my current build:

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700
  • Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (ATX)
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4-2133 CL13
  • CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
  • GPU: Stock AMD Vega 56
  • PSU: be quiet! Straight Power 11 650W 650 W 80+ Gold (RIP edition)
  • Case: Fractal Design Define R5

Still on the same RAM that I bought in 2016 (12.189 ns - ow).

My plan was something like this (no idea what GPU to go for now):

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X
  • Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (ATX)
  • RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19
  • CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
  • GPU: ??? (suggestions much appreciated)
  • PSU: be quiet! Straight Power 11 650W 650 W 80+ Gold (working edition)
  • Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower

Any suggestions?

I’d suggest an AMD 6650XT or 6700XT GPU. Fairly affordable (my ‘local’ vendor has these at either side of the 400€ mark) but still powerful enough to play modern games. Under the condition you don’t crank up detail levels to insane :roll_eyes:

The rest of your system looks fairly balanced, although the RAM might be too overpriced relative to performance. Have a rethink on that. Unless you have a fantastic deal on it, obviously :wink:

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I’ll have a look at the prices for those GPUs. RAM is £123 (€138.99) so not too bad. Was looking for something faster but might have gone too far…

I aimed for 8.75ns latency on the RAM but that might be way overkill? Anything is better than my current sticks.

Drop the ram down to 3600 because anything over that is not guaranteed without golden silicon
Instead take the money you would put into fast ram into a 5800x3D
That will lower latency better than any ram kit

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Is the 5800XT worth it? Switching from the G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 to the cheaper Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory saves me £34.97.

Going from a 5700X to a 5800X3D would be an increase of £121.01.

Will definitely go for the cheaper RAM kit anyway but not sure about the CPU. I fee like the money saved should go to the GPU?

Depends on how long you want to stay on the platform, you can only upgrade the GPU next time or do a platform update next time
That Vega 56 still goes for a pretty penny, you can sell it to recoup the costs

If 1440p is the desired resolution, the minimum would be an RX6700 or 3060ti, if buying new.

6650XT is best at 1080p and loses a lot of ground at higher resolutions, speaking from experience.

Currently debating between 6700XT and 6800XT. It’s a £206.07 price difference (£207 difference between 6700XT and 6800).

I feel like I could get away with 6700XT but maybe I should stretch my budget…

That’s a very good point. Quick search for a Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB HBM2 on eBay UK reveals…no results. There’s a couple for sale in the US. But not even any sold listings in the UK - not actually sure how much it would go for here.

If not it can become my space heater :sweat_smile:

Think I’ve settled on this (changed the case because the Torrent has weird fans sizes). Any last words before I go ahead?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor £300.00 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler Purchased For £0.00
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard Purchased For £0.00
Memory Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory £89.00 @ Computer Orbit
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive £101.52 @ Amazon UK
Video Card PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card £586.90 @ Amazon UK
Case Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case £95.00 @ Computer Orbit
Power Supply be quiet! Straight Power 11 850W 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £149.43 @ NeoComputers
Case Fan Noctua A14 PWM 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan £31.94 @
Case Fan Noctua A14 PWM 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan £31.94 @
Case Fan Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan £30.95 @ Amazon UK
Custom Noctua Chromax NA-SAV2 Cuscinetti Anti-Vibrazione, Nero £8.94 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £1425.62
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-07 10:41 GMT+0000

You might want to consider the Crucial P5 Plus instead of the Samsung 980 Pro especially since the latest issues and it’s slightly cheaper
Seasonic Focus GX-850 is 10£ more ( and gives you 5y longer warranty

Amazon clearly didn’t get the memo that NVMe drives have plummeted in price recently. I found 1TB PCIe Gen 3 drives for as little as 60€ on my “local” retailer site and Gen 4 drives are also considerably below 100€ for the 1TB capacity variant.

Example: Lexar NM800PRO 1TB (EAN 0843367128440) just 82€ (plus shipping, of course) This is a true Gen4 drive with read @ 7.5GB/s and write at 6.3 GB/s. You should be able to find decent bargains in the UK as well.

I’ve always gone with the Straight Power series because of the PSU tier lists. If the Crucial P5 Plus is similar (or better) quality I’ll go for it.

Was going to go for the Samsung SSD because the benchmarks looked significantly better but it’s probably not noticeable under normal use. Forgot about the firmware issues.

Not that many deals in the UK with inflation as bad as it is. That Lexar is £119.99 versus £85.42 for the Crucial P5 Plus. Just trying to avoid DRAMless SSD’s.

wendell made a 3D prinded fan adapter for the torrent to allow a 140 fan in the back, or maybe it was 120
I’ll ask him tommorow

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