Is it just me, or is ASRock

Akchually…

ASrock was spun off was Asus in 2002, ASrock is owned by Pegatron and not Asus. Asus are their own company.

Pegatron was also spun off from Asus in 2010. So one yes both under Asus they are not any more.

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A grub reinstall might be in order then. I’ll make a post covering it later here: FrankenDebian

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I second the correctly executed cooling.
The question I ask myself is if customers really want all those “features” or if there are just no products without those “features”?

https://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/gaming.cfm scroll down to the motherboards. They got a nice enough range in their style.

On that note, I really like the looks of the SuperMicro S5 case.

I’m running Solus, so I’m not using grub. Solus used to use the gummiboot loader, but for the past year, or two they’ve been using the clear boot manager from Clear Linux. I haven’t had any boot issues, so I haven’t done much reading on how it works.
Solus is on the M.2 drive, with its own boot loader and EFI partition.
W10 is on a SSD, with its own boot loader and EFI partition.
I have two other SSDs. One is loaded w/ Windows Steam games and one is loaded w/ Linux Steam games. I expect that there are EFI partitions on those drives, too.
I have another SSD for tinkering with other OS’s, with its own EFI partition (nothing on there at the moment).
I can remove drives without affecting whether some other OS will boot. All of the drives (except for the M.2) are mounted in an Icy Dock cage. I use the UEFI boot menu if I want to run something other than Solus. So all OS’s are standalone/modular and can be readily plugged in and un-plugged as needed.
For some reason, only the M.2 drive entry gets repeated in the UEFI boot menu over and over and over and …

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Asus went downhill when they crushed their Tuf brand into budget and not what it was originally

AsRock boards could look like a purple dump truck for all I care, as long as they fixed the tcpu/tctl motherboard temperature sensors for the latest Ryzen-Athlon 200 APUs.

I ain’t buying 355*

HOLY SHIT!

And WHAT? NZXT made a motherboard? Why don’t they do more?

I noticed this too. Just looking at the price. I thought it was a little on the cheap side when window shopping for a TUF board on Newegg.

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I also have an ASRock x99 'board, a Fatal1ty Professional Gaming i7. It’s got a bit of a gamer aesthetic from the red and black color scheme, but no RGB and other such accouterments. It’s been fairly trouble free, but the XMP setting gave my Haswell-E CPU’s IMC too many volts under load with the settings on auto with recent BIOSes. Be aware of that.

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Well it’s nice to read about discussion that X manufacturer boards are made by X or Y,
But that all isn’t really relevant at all.

What is relevant is the said component quality that is getting used on motherboards in general.
Those components are mostly third party and have nothing to do with said brand.
Like for example the vrm components, other electrical components, pch chipset, controllers etc etc.

The only thing with Asus and their pwm’s, is that Asus rebrands the pwm’s.
But Asus is a bit vague about this.
But they might have some deal on this with Infineon and intersil.
Still Asus has a decent bios doe.
The only thing i don’t really like about Asus is that all the unnecessary software they,
provide with their boards.
But of course you don’t really have to install it.

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It was for their own in house build service, so they likely don’t see the value in entering a market with all ready big names to compete against but this way don’t have to buy them in.

On the other side of it they were very meh feature wise, they worked and that was about it.

I want to like ASRock, but in Ryzen they’re doing some really weird slips, like this:


And this (that my very own AB350 suffered from):

Not only Asrock did this.
But Gigabyte and Msi aswell on the B series of boards.
And now days its getting more common to double up components on powerphases.

Thats such a despicable behaviour by these brands, and with ASRock this was on the X series, back when i stumbled around that video i had just gotten out of my AB350 and i was looking to buy the Master SLI, thankfully i did look around before buying it.

Well kinda depends on the way you look at it.
Doubling up components on a power phase isn’t actually that bad of an idea,
atleast wenn they done it properly.
Not the way Gigabyte did it on their B series boards atleast.

You could build a reasonably well vrm with mediocre components,
if you double them per phase.
It is getting more common now days.

But like with every scenario there are some pro’s and con’s to it.

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And sometimes its better to have a board with a decent VRM, decent BIOS and decent software instead of having a great VRM, terrible BIOS and bad software like my Biostar X470GT8, a great board hardware-wise crippled by software incompetence, for memory it practically only runs correctly on B-Die.

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With the latest beta BIOS for the Taichi from the beginning of this year I didn’t spot any changes to voltages. That certainly is strange. I don’t know why they’d tamper with stuff like that as the boards should rely with the 2133mhz 1.2v standard for DDR4 unless XMP is loaded… In which case the highest I’ve ever seen pulled is 1.25v.

Are you using Haswell-E/EP or Broadwell-E/EP?

I have still got my XFX R9 280X. Very clean looking card.

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Haswell-E. 5820k to be exact

I had a Gigabyte Windforce 280X. Loved the card. It was pretty sweet.

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