Is AI included in the Linux kernel? Lol what are you talking about?
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Are you talking about the linux kernel or a specific distro or what? Because more than half of what you listed just literally isn’t true about Linux itself, which is the topic of conversation.
Okay so you’re actually just being willingly dishonest and changing the topic to suit your points? Who cares what different distros do? That’s not Linux, that’s a “flavor” of linux and entirely optional to you. Completely defeats the purpose of this topic
That’s exactly what “Linux” is. It’s the kernel and everything that gets packaged with it… Every distro is “Linux”. Currently a diverse ecosystem that some people seem hell-bent on homogenising and turning into a mono-culture.
I am arguing that fragmentation makes things harder, that in practical terms Linux has became harder due to that fragmentation and that no, the terminal is not intuitive and Linux is not built for normies. I wish there was a reference Linux OS in the same way there is one kernel and as many flavor distros as desired. You can read my posts and that is exactly what you will see.
Care to explain how that or any of my posts don’t fit the thread? Otherwise you are just making some vague allegations and calling my name for no reason.
Claiming that Linux is “the kernel and everything that gets packaged with it” instantly nukes any pretense of being the elite systems purist you’ve been cosplaying this whole thread.
Linux is strictly the kernel. Period. You’ve spent pages arrogantly lecturing people about “normies” and “dumbed-down slop,” only to expose that you don’t even understand the architectural boundary between the kernel and the userland. It is pure, unfiltered projection.
The reason Linux isn’t turning into a “monoculture” is the exact separation you apparently don’t grasp: because the kernel doesn’t dictate userland policy, distros remain free to build whatever stack they want.
This is what happens when someone cares more about winning internet arguments and setting semantic traps than actually understanding the tech. You’re so desperate to lord superiority over everyone else that you tripped over the most basic definition in the entire ecosystem.
Stop acting the part of the grizzled Unix guru to farm forum clout. It’s completely fine to learn from others and admit you don’t know everything, but trying to lecture people on system architecture when you don’t even know what Linux actually is just destroyed whatever credibility you had left.
You can choose a shitty distro if you want, but that’s on no one but you. Linux is the Linux kernel. Everything else is an optional flavor and no one gives a fuck if there are bad options as long as there are also good options, of which there are more than plenty. Having more options could not possibly be a bad thing lol
The entire topic of conversation here has been about the Linux Kernel
I use a 27" display with keyboard and mouse. DEs that are designed primarily for touch-screen or trackpad users are antagonistic and hide basic functionality behind swipey-swipey bullshit. That’s why I don’t like them. I don’t mind that they exist. I just don’t want to use them. If/when SystemD expands to assimilate Wayland, and forces that swipey-swipey bullshit down everyone’s throat, then I’m out.
I’m not against options. I like options. I don’t like my preferred option being taken away from me… and being replaced by something unworkable.
You used to be able to do that with GNOME (but not the Unity horror-show). Then it morphed. Extensions made it possible to ‘restore’ basic functionality, but the Gnome devs ultimately adopted a “Fuck you” attitude towards extensions, which ended up breaking extensions on a weekly basis. The extension devs then gave up, which made restoration of basic functionality impossible. That’s when I bailed for Mint on my daily driver. Other people may have higher/lower pain thresholds.
Valid concerns, but I don’t think the solution is to voluntarily walk into a prison and incarcerate yourself for life — agreeing to only eat the food the prison’s kitchen provides, only being able to access the form of entertainment that the warden deems is appropriate.
I want to retain the ability to install software from anywhere. Yes, warn me with a “Are you sure?” modal, but otherwise just get out of my way and let me do it. I’m an adult — I can live with the consequences of my actions and take calculated risks. Don’t treat me like a child with an auto-immune disease that needs to be protected from the entire world. That level of paranoia is not necessary.
Do you think this metaphor even makes sense? Because you are the one advocating for a more locked-down, less capable OS. You are the one advocating for such a solution.
Yes, it makes perfect sense. If you allow Linux to become an iOS-esque walled garden then you are a prisoner. It might be a pretty prison, but you are still a prisoner. I don’t want Apple or Google or anyone else dictating what I can install on my computer.
No-one needs to prove anything to you. If you are incapable of understanding metaphors, then that’s your problem.
Canonical’s Snap Store is directly modelled after Apple’s App Store. Ubuntu even intercepts attempts to install Firefox via apt and installs a snap instead. Pay more attention.
In what world do you live where that was taken from you?
You still aren’t forced to install or use such a atomic or immutable distro.
And if you choose to walk into that, borrowing from your metaphor, you are still the warden.
There are technical limitations in place that keep you from just dropping a binary into any place of the system.
Those are not “a warden deciding you can’t” that is technology.
And you can still install and run anything you want if you realize and accept that due to technology, the ways to do exactly that have changed slightly. They still exist.
Where is all that shit about a “Linux” becoming a walled garden coming from?
Stop gaslighting yourself and start living in reality
