The other ones with built-in 10GbE options that come to mind:
But given the NVME count you’re going for, may or may not even be options.
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The Proart can be found for €460 and has 4x m.2 and 2x8 lane PCIe 5.0, so if there is no plans on upgrading further then yeah, it could probably fulfill all your current needs. You would need to buy a new system, but it would save you a ton of money over a threadripper system. Asus is not the best of brands lately though. Only real drawback apart from the limited PCIe lanes is that the third PCIe port shares lanes with third m.2 port - meaning it is either 3 PCIe, 3 m.2 or 2 PCIe, 4 m.2 slots.
Here is the above system with Taichi replaced with Proart in German PCPP, and a 7900 XT thrown in for good measure:
| Type | Item | Price |
|---|---|---|
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 7950X | €579.00 |
| Motherboard | Asus ProArt X670E-CREATOR WIFI | €461.46 |
| Memory | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL30 | €225.89 |
| Memory | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL30 | €225.89 |
| Storage | Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 | €305.99 |
| Storage | Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 | €305.99 |
| Storage | Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 | €305.99 |
| Video Card | PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT | €877.99 |
| Case | Phanteks Enthoo Series Primo Aluminum | €261.89 |
| Power Supply | SeaSonic PRIME PX-1300 1300W | €286.80 |
| Total | €3836.89 |
And here is the equivalent Threadripper build:
| Type | Item | Price |
|---|---|---|
| CPU* | AMD Threadripper 5965WX | €2104.43 |
| Motherboard* | ASRock WRX80 Creator | €758.31 |
| Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16 GB DDR4-3600 CL18 | €64.89 |
| Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16 GB DDR4-3600 CL18 | €64.89 |
| Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16 GB DDR4-3600 CL18 | €64.89 |
| Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16 GB DDR4-3600 CL18 | €64.89 |
| Storage | Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 | €305.99 |
| Storage | Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 | €305.99 |
| Storage | Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 | €305.99 |
| Video Card | PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT | €877.99 |
| Case | Phanteks Enthoo Series Primo Aluminum | €261.89 |
| Power Supply | SeaSonic PRIME PX-1300 1300W | €286.80 |
| Total | €5466.95 |
I think it is clear the Threadripper is the worse value proposition here as it is worse at gaming and cost about 40% more, this might change once October rolls around but right now… Why? Better to try get the 7950X to work for you and spend the difference on a hardtube watercooled build or something. But hey, that’s just me 
Oh yeah, and this might interest you for the watercooling:
It doesnt help that mobos could get deceptively heavy, making imports silly expensive.
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I had the same thought and this is the cheapest AM5 board with 8-8-4 PCIe slots directly from the CPU. That’s the price of PCIe5, considering that the actual benefit of PCIe5 is currently close to zero, the board is almost a rip-off.
And the built-in 10GbE card is garbage!
Topic partial revival
Two questions:
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Has anyone here seen One of these babies anywhere for sale?
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AMD Threadripper 7000: CPU-Z bestätigt 5 Modelle und 96 Kerne beim 7995WX - ComputerBase
I want a 7955WX, probably.
Two months later and whatever virt-manager’s problem was seems to have gone away… just FYI.
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More Topic Revival
Planning:
| Type | Part | Note |
|---|---|---|
| Mainboard | ASRock TRX50 WS | |
| CPU | AMD 7960X | |
| RAM | GSkill Zeta R5 Neo | This may be difficult to procure… |
| SSD | Crucial T700 | 1TB, Boot drive, probably? |
Fixed & On Hand:
| Type | Part | Note |
|---|---|---|
| Case | Phanteks Enthoo Primo | Is big boy case! 
|
| Fans 1 | Noiseblocker PK-PS PWM | 140mm, 4x |
| Fans 2 | Noiseblocker B14PS | 140mm, 3x |
| PSU | Seasonic PX-1300 | 1.3kW |
| GPU | Quadro RTX 4000 | |
| NIC | Intel E810 | 2x 25Gbit |
Thoughts:
I think an RX 7800 XT should cover my GPU needs for gaming. That card (according to TPU) is a casual doubling in performance, which should give me my >100FPS at 3440x1440. For 300€ more, I could bump that up to a 7900 XT, which is 3x my current GPU.
Memory. Wendell mentioned Zeta R5 Neo being the good stuff. Seems to be non-available in Germany right now, either find something else or ask a retailer if they can procure some.
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Wait… You can spend $3k+ on CPU, MB and GPU but not $200-$300 on a 4TB SSD gen 4.0 boot drive?
Other than that, looking great 
Boot drive just needs to hold the OS.
Storage in the machine will just hold projects that are being worked on and programs. NAS covers the rest.
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This is the same mantra / logic I follow!
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It keeps each individual machine simpler since you do not need to cram 50TB in there.
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Aye! I’d love to have some bigger drives in my nas for data back up and for my emby server
Understanding SFF
Really out of my depth here.
Wendell suggested to look into U.2/U.3 for my storage needs, and… well…
Icydock ToughArmor MB699VP-B V3 wants 4x SFF-8612, the ASRock board has
In my head, two SFF-8654 to SFF-8612 cable like the Broadcom Kabel CBL-SFF8654-OCuLink would cover me…? 
Halp 
To somewhat answer my own question:
- The Icydock MB699VP-B V3 has 4x SFF-8612, so it needs SFF-8611 cables.
- Delock 90111 breaks out PCIe x16 to 4x SFF-8654 4i
- Delock 85801 adapts SFF-8654 4i to SFF-8611
If I am reading this right (grain of 
):
This setup would use the two SlimSAS-connectors on the board (SFF-8654 4i) and the above cables turns them into SFF-8654 8i for the dock
Seemed like what you had before could handle almost anything thrown at it. All it needed was a few upgrades here and there and it would have been just fine.
Maybe a good clean-out/format would have done you some good too and saved money. There is always something new coming out on the horizon but your system was already pretty beefy
Just my opinion
I considered just getting the GPU upgrade and seeing how far I can push RAM-size before things fall apart.
The jank-NAS (4x 8TB) would definitely need some love in that case.
- Beyond the case and PSU (and fans), I have spent no money on this build yet
- The absence of CUDA means I can not preview above 480p30 when doing things in Resolve
- Storage - Yes, I can build another NAS, and a non-jank one this time, but that NAS would have to handle 10Gbit so I can edit off of it.
After thinking about this for a while, and having issues with both storage and memory space in my current machine, 3 step plan:
Step 1
Build a TR-based base system, stuff it with storage.
Just to get me by until I decide on the less important parts of this needlessly long endeavour. SSD to boot from, SSD to put a project or two on, and a BTRFS Raid 1 Pool to rotate Projects with.
Timeframe: February
| Part | Name | Have | Note |
|---|---|---|---|
| Mainboard | ASRock TRX50 WS | ||
| CPU | AMD 7960X | Lanes for Days! | |
| Memory | Kingston Fury Pro | 6Ghz, 32G, 2x for now | |
| Storage | Crucial T700 | 1TB, boot drive | |
| Storage | Kingston KC3000 | 4TB, project dump drive | |
| Storage | WD Ultrastar HC 520 | 12TB, storage pool | |
| Storage | Seagate Exos X18 | 12TB, storage pool | |
| Cooler | Noctua NH-U12S | “temporary” | |
| GPU | Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000 | x | Neighbour will follow! |
| Fans | Noiseblocker BlackSilent Pro | x | 140mm, 4x |
| Fans | Noiseblocker NB eLoop | x | 140mm, 3x |
| PSU | Seasonic Prime Platinum | x | 1300W |
| Case | Phanteks Enthoo Primo | x | Big Box! |
| NIC | Intel E810- XXVDA2 | x |
Step 2
Make it into a new computer, not another mix&match.
This step should complete the system from a functionality standpoint.
Timeframe: April
| Part | Name | Note |
|---|---|---|
| Memory | Kingston Fury Pro | 6Ghz, 32G, bringing it to 4 sticks |
| Backplane | Icydock MB699VP-B V3 | 4x U.3 |
| SFF Cable | SFF-8611 to Oculink | The right one though? |
| Storage | Kioxia CD8-R | 7.6TB |
| GPU | AMD RX 7900XT | Probably, maybe just a 7800XT |
| Storage | WD Ultrastar HC 520 | 12TB, storage pool |
| Storage | Seagate Exos X18 | 12TB, storage pool |
Step 3
The good cooling
This may never happen. Putting the cost of the GPU into the system again just for cooling… However!
Timeframe: Summer
| Part | Name | Note |
|---|---|---|
| CPU-Block | EK-Pro WB sTR | |
| GPU-Block | Alphacool Core RX7900XT | |
| Fitting | EK-Quantum Torque Rotarry 90° | 2x, for the CPU-Block |
| Fitting | Alphacool HF TPV | 6 pieces, need 2 kits, I think? |
| Valve | Alphacool Eiszapfen Kugelhahn | Not making the mistake a friend made! |
| Radiator | Alphacool Nexxxos ST30 | 420mm |
| Hose | Alphacool AlphaTube TPV | They say it fits the fittings! |
| Pump&Res | EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 200 D5 | |
| HotSwap Bay | Silverstone FS304-12G | |
| HBA | Silverstone ECS-05 | Max PCIe useage! |
| Cable | SFF-8643 to SATA |
Obligatory “don’t use btrfs” post, or at least don’t use raid on btrfs. From the sounds of it, the situation there has not improved.
My NAS (4x 12TB) runs BTRFS RAID10, without issues for the past… ehm? Has been a while.
RAID 5 and 6, are risky though.
Can also do ZFS, I think. Never tried but am willing to learn.
I’ll have to go back and listen to the episode of the 2.5 admins podcast I’m thinking of. They talked about how some systems use btrfs, but they offload all the raidy parts to mdadm, so you’re not really using the file system for that.