So the are many posts about this but I want to ask for personal preferences and/or any advice. I'm looking into gaming mice and I primarily want versatility. I don't need a billion buttons but I would like enough to play starcraft. I don't need the best sensor out there but I need one that can substantiate BF4. Wired or wireless are both fine but wireless is a nice convenience. Lights and colors are cool but aren't a priority. With all this said, I have been looking into the Logitech G602 and the only thing that concerns me is the 500hz report rate. Any thoughts or input about this?
Genius Gila, I've had this mouse for 2 months and I absolutely love it, the on mouse DPI changing ability is great, with larger hands the side buttons might be a problem, however mine are medium and fit perfectly.
I have a Roccat Kone [+] ; love it.
http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gaming-Mice/ROCCAT-Kone-/
- Pro-Aim Laser Sensor R2 with up to 6000dpi
- 1000Hz polling rate
- 1ms response time
- 11750fps, 10.5megapixel
- 30G acceleration
- 3.8-5m/s (150-200ips)
- 16-bit data channel
- Tracking & Distance Control Unit
- 72MHz TurboCore processor
- 576kB onboard memory
- 2m USB cable
500hz report rate
Completely fine for everything. The difference between 500Hz and 1000Hz is 1ms of latency which you can't feel. I can feel the difference between 125Hz and 500/1000Hz easily though.
Wired or wireless are both fine but wireless is a nice convenience
Wireless mice are inferior to wired ones and way more expensive at the same time.
I want to ask for personal preferences and/or any advice
My personal preferences:
- Never laser sensors because they are inferior to optical and are there just for marketing.
- I usually look prefer mice that have optical wheel encoder because mechanical ones are prone to breaking after several years. Zowie and Logitech are almost the only ones who do it right.
- No one really needs more than two buttons under the thumb. Mouse is not a keyboard.
- DPI is irrelevant it most cases, as pretty much every modern optical mouse has more than I use. If you use more than 2k with a 1080p monitor you should lower your sensitivity because you are sacrificing too much accuracy.
The zowie ec2 evo and the death adder are probably some of the best gaming mice you can buy
Wireless mice are not inferior. That is a myth. I used to play day of defeat source in team tournaments 8-9+ years ago with, at the time, a logitech wireless mouse that wasn't even made for gaming. I did very well on that team and never had an issue missing targets because my mouse was wireless. In fact I often had the highest # of kills on the team.
Honestly the latency is so minor, you'll never notice and it's not enough to be an issue. 500hz is 500 updates per second. That's 2 thousandths of a second. I don't care who you are, you're not going to notice a 2 thousandth of a second delay. ;)
Then there's the DPI myths as well. More is not better. Mice with ultra high DPI numbers aren't any better because they have to scale that sensitivity down to a lower resolution anyways. There's no real benefit to anything well beyond 2000DPI, as Dissentient mentioned. However, I wouldn't recommend using anything too much below that.
I'm also looking very closely at the G602. At this point I'm 99% sure that will be my next mouse. Has everything I need and want in terms of functionality and performance and is very reasonably priced.
Currently I'm just using a cheap logitech wireless mouse I had lying around (M305 I think) when I built my PC a couple months ago. It's worked ok for the time being, but with only 300DPI, it's noticeably inaccurate in FPS games. Especially when trying to snipe as it jumps several pixels with the slightest movement. So indeed, DPI matters, but only to an extent.
I have a death adder and it is great and comfortable for my hand. It also has a good price for what you are getting.
Razer Deathadder
If you're cheap, I recommend this:
Wireless mice are not inferior. That is a myth. I used to play day of defeat source in team tournaments 8-9+ years ago with, at the time, a logitech wireless mouse that wasn't even made for gaming.
The fact that you did well doesn't mean that you wouldn't do better with a better mouse. Better peripherals don't make you play better, but they prevent you from doing worse than you could.
Firstly, there's no benefit in having wireless mouse on a desktop whatsoever. Secondly, most wireless have laser sensors because of their lower battery consumption. And finally, all "gaming" wireless mice have a battery life measured in hours.
It's worked ok for the time being, but with only 300DPI, it's noticeably inaccurate in FPS games. Especially when trying to snipe as it jumps several pixels with the slightest movement. So indeed, DPI matters, but only to an extent.
Well, it wouldn't be an issue if you could play at 300 DPI with 1:1 sensitivity in windows. But that's kinda lol.
I reach my optimal accuracy/speed at 1050 DPI doing this kind of thing. My wrist doesn't move at all though.
As far as I understand, the argument is that there is less lag in a corded mouse between input and action. What I'm saying is that at 500hz, you can't discern any lag or difference because the lag is such a tiny fraction of time. I can assure you, when ever I died in day of defeat source, it wasn't because of any delay in the wireless mouse. Most of the time I was killed during sacrificial flag captures...lol.
The G602 uses an LED optical sensor and the battery life is supposedly around 250 hours of non-stop use and over 1400 hours on pure "eco mode". So if you don't game 24/7 and use the low power mode when not gaming, it'll last somewhere in between. To put that into perspective, that's about 10-60 days and 24/7 use. Since nobody (I hope) uses their mouse non-stop 24/7, we could assume 30-120 days or more, depending. For a mouse like this, I'd say that's very good and quite acceptable.
The old logitech I used to use had a rechargeable battery pack and a docking station. So when not in use, it was charging. Never had it run out on me once.
I understand not everyone likes or wants to use a wireless mouse. To each his/her own. But the bottom line is; if there is no discernible difference, then it isn't going to prevent me from doing worse, nor would it make me do better. We're talking about a very very tiny fraction of time. ;)
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Krypton-Dual-Chassis-Gaming-GM-KRYPTON/dp/B008U6SR92
i have this, bought it because it was blue and has adjustable weights, i have hands on the larger side and this mouse fits perfect, one of the most comfortable ive ever used, and has changeable profiles so i mapped the side buttons for each game and just switch the profile
The Razer Deathadder is a good mouse that I have. If you are looking to spend a bit more money, I hear that the Mionix brand of mice are very good, and deserve a nice mouse pad to complement them.
MIONIX: http://mionix.net/product-type/mice/
RAZER DEATHADDER: http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-deathadder/
Well, I'm not sure if there is or there's no additional lag because of wireless (as in, independent of polling rate, time to encode the signal on the mouse and decode it on the receiver). Also, wireless mice are always heavier (for example G602 150g with two batteries vs G400 being 105g) than wired (which for me is not a matter of preference, lighter is always better) and cost almost twice as much. G700s for 95 euros and G602 for 85 is a freaking joke when I paid 30 for G400 last year.
I didn't notice that G602 probably uses a decent sensor because they used their Delta Zero™®© marketing bullshit name instead of just naming the sensor. If it's Avago 3090, I will admit that G602 is actually a wireless mouse that is not shit.
But anyway, there's no reason to use a wireless mouse with a desktop PC. They sure are better with a laptop but when it's always sits on your desk, wireless technology doesn't provide any benefits while bringing a lot of downsides.
The down sides you're listing (like weight) are subjective to each individual and not something that makes the mouse less capable of doing what it was designed to do and from functioning just as well as a corded mouse.
You may not have any reasons for using a wireless mouse with your desktop, but others do. I have enough cords and cables as it is with speakers, two displays, head set, cheap corded keyboard, force feedback driving wheel & pedals, and an corded xbox360 controller. Having the most used peripheral not tied down by yet another cord is a nice convenience for me. I also have a small desk and will not be able to change that for some time, so I have to make the best use of the space I have. The less cords the better.
Batteries and battery life is not an issue to me because they seem to last long enough and give you plenty of warning before they die. My $15 M305 goes for days with the red light flashing and there's no performance drop during that time. lol
For those that choose to use good quality wireless gaming mice, there is no performance hit or compromise, because it suits the users preference and functions just as well as any corded counterpart.
If there's no discernible difference in performance, then it doesn't matter if someone chooses a wireless mouse for their desktop.
Again, to each, his/her own. :)