The mucho talked about motherboards that @wendell talked about in a video today. I popped over to their store on AliExpress and realised that their 12th generation Intel cpu motherboards seems to be out now (at least i5 and i7). To my knowledge no one has reviewed these yet but it looks to be pretty much the same thing. Also found some 10th generation Intel cpu motherboards but there’s really not much of a price difference. These are all non engineering samples cpus.
By the way, are they “cheating” and the pcie x16 is a x16/x8? The cpus can only handle 20 pcie lanes, and expansion cards and three m.2 is more than that.
Basically a chipset will multiplex pci-e lanes but the real bandwidth you get is limited to the dmi
Same as desktop chips
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The board in the video was actually a personal purchase by me and we decided to make a video on it
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I’m actually surprised how little people seem to care about security when it comes to hardware. Most of these products have no firmware updates etc at all or even bugfixes.
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It’s expected with these, you aren’t going to put it in your office, it’s more for your budget gaming PC
Most of the vulnerabilities require physical access and that point you have bigger problems
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Yeah but no. I wouldn’t use it for a server, but it’s alright for a cheap gaming pc with only operating system and game exe. Same thing with the X99 motherboards and such.
Yes pleace. Especially when it comes to things like this motherboard, or the weird m.2 adapters. Thinking outside of the normal computer box.
Have a browse:
At least 2 video’s on the subject, including server builds.
HTH!
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Brian from Tech Yes City just uploaded a video on it.
To sum up his concerns
The VRM heat up A LOT. Yeah you can throw on the cooler that you can buy from Erying. But odds are, the VRM’s are going to off them self in just a few years because they’re low quality. (He mentioned a few other things, like a bad BIOS, I can’t remember all he mentioned right now)
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I just found that there’s a new mobile xeon w version of it, might be a steal if it properly supports ECC:
W-10855M@200USD
W-11955M@250USD
Although it looks like the PCIe lane mapping isn’t great, looks like x16+x1
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Not just hardware. As long as people can get to FaceTube and Tiktegram, they simply don’t care about platform security (until their files get encrypted with no valid backups.) The Snowden revelations showed that. The vast public just didn’t care. Governments are actively undermining security with one-sided legislation, backdoors and flawed encryption algorithms, so expect things to get much worse.
This is why I’m pushing for my Mom to get a nas. Keep the important files there, and run a chromebook or whatever for the surfing.
I mailed and asked and unfortunately neither their motherboard with xeon or their xeon cpus support ecc memory. Wolfgang did a video with a mutant mobile xeon a week ago and couldn’t use ecc memory.
It’s pretty annoying too that there’s no dual mobile xeon cpus. I’d get that for my home server right away.
Purchased one of the 12th gen boards with b660i naming.
I am super happy with it after I unlocked the bios and could tweak c-states and enable aspm.
Don’t have any problems with VRM and VT-d(iommu) works aswell. I think this board is good quality but I do not expect any future BIOS updates for it.
Running around 10w, with 3 fans, picopsu and an nvme drive in idle.
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Now they’ve released a bunch of mini ITX boards too. Both with 11th and 12th generation mobile cpus. Not super cheap though.
I have one of the 11800H boards with the “upgraded” vrm heatsinks and I’ve got to say I’m pretty happy with it, although I don’t know much about messing with bios settings for overclocking or undervolting, so I’m probably leaving some performance on the table.
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I run mine delided and use a noctua 120mm cooler and it runs about 4.4ghz all core
Hmmm, delided eh? If I can figure out how to do that without breaking the dye I might give it a try!
Did you mess with the bios settings at all?
You just need tri-tiped screw driver, it’s only got paste not solder
Yeah there’s a cert set of settings you need to change to overclock
Delidding for these Erying boards, is plopping your heatsink, directly onto the exposed die
[aka, forgoing the large Al/Cu shim-spacer thing]
I got the m-itx 11400H board HM570 chipset and I can’t get IOMMU working. I am modding the BIOS via AMIBCP to enable the hidden features.
Does anyone have any pointers?
find /sys/kernel/iommu_groups/ -type l returns empty.
My boot
root@mini:~# dmesg | grep -e DMAR -e IOMMU -e AMD-Vi
[ 0.012592] ACPI: DMAR 0x0000000038011000 000088 (v02 INTEL EDK2 00000002 01000013)
[ 0.012633] ACPI: Reserving DMAR table memory at [mem 0x38011000-0x38011087]
[ 0.136714] DMAR: Host address width 39
[ 0.136717] DMAR: DRHD base: 0x000000fed90000 flags: 0x0
[ 0.136724] DMAR: dmar0: reg_base_addr fed90000 ver 4:0 cap 1c0000c40660462 ecap 29a00f0505e
[ 0.136729] DMAR: DRHD base: 0x000000fed91000 flags: 0x1
[ 0.136736] DMAR: dmar1: reg_base_addr fed91000 ver 1:0 cap d2008c40660462 ecap f050da
[ 0.136741] DMAR: RMRR base: 0x0000003f000000 end: 0x0000004f7fffff
[ 0.136746] DMAR-IR: IOAPIC id 2 under DRHD base 0xfed91000 IOMMU 1
[ 0.136749] DMAR-IR: HPET id 0 under DRHD base 0xfed91000
[ 0.136751] DMAR-IR: Queued invalidation will be enabled to support x2apic and Intr-remapping.
[ 0.138738] DMAR-IR: Enabled IRQ remapping in x2apic mode
[ 6.545497] pci 0000:00:02.0: DMAR: Skip IOMMU disabling for graphics
root@mini:~#