[Canada] Please Help First $1000 Streaming/Gaming PC

Basically this is my first build ever, the main goal is to get the most out of my money so that I could stream and play the most current games and future games to come at relatively high settings with great FPS. I hope this can be as future proof as possible

The only things I think I'm missing is the case and the cooling, I already have a mouse(deathadder),keyboard and OS. Hopefully if I missed something you guys can fill me in.

Formatting:

  • Budget. Max $1000 | Prefer $800~ or lower
  • Country/Currency: Canada | Canadian Dollars
  • Retailer: No Preference
  • Peripherals: Have Mouse / Keyboard / OS / (Debating on buying a 144hz or a 60hz monitor)
  • Main Use: Streaming / Gaming
  • Overclocking: If it's worth it, sure but I have never overclocked before and don't know how.
  • Cooling: Would prefer whichever is cheaper/does the job.
  • Settings/FPS: As high as possible (higher end of settings), sometimes lower for games like CS:GO
  • Resolution: Same with Settings/FPS
  • Game Types: Watch Dogs, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Assassin's Creed: Unity, Far Cry 4, D3, etc (Newest)
  • Streaming: I'll usually be streaming CS:GO, League of Legends, Hearthstone and sometimes the newer more CPU/GPU intense games.
Note: The parts I found without links were from Boxing Day flyers and I plan to buy all the parts on Boxing Day.
 
Edit: I found a $299 R9 290X so now I'm not sure if I should get that instead x.x so confused

PartPicker Link (My build so far, but if you can do better pls do so): http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/4ggFpg

Reddit Link (More info if required): http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcforme/comments/2q7d4t/canada_please_help_build_my_first_8001000_best/

I also have a few questions about my build concerning a lot of things so any advice/opinion is appreciated.

1. Case & Cooling

I'm having trouble figuring out which case I should get and even more so what kind of cooling. Can you guys help me find the amount/type of cooling I need for this build and the case that works best for the price with the cooling method (Price/Performance > Looks, I don't care what the tower looks like).

2. Power Supply

I can either save $20 by going for a EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply for $19.99 or go for a Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply for $39.99. Do you think saving the $20 is worth it?

3. Monitor

Is it really worth getting a 144hz monitor now? I mean it's $269, I'm leaning towards taking the monitor out and just purchasing a 60hz one on my own then upgrading later on so that I can go much lower than my budget (it would be nice to just spend $700 for the best bang for buck)

4. CPU & GPU

Should I get these or the build mentioned in the comments of the reddit post?

5. Motherboard

Not sure if I chose the best value motherboard for the job.

I hope this wasn't too much information, I really appreciate anyone taking their time and helping me get the best deals for my first PC and of course Happy Holidays :).

1. For a single R9 290, any decent case will do.  I've chosen one for you.

2. Both are great power supplies, but the CSM is a bit better.  I usually try to get at least 80+ Bronze certification, so EVGA's 500B may be an option as well.  EVGA's 500B is also a better performer overall (I won't go into specifics, as that might confuse you).

3. Really up to you.  I do see some places in the build that could be disasterous, and you may have to drop this down to a 60hz panel to save some money.

Motherboard.  AM3+ M-ATX motherboards really aren't suitable for the power draw of 8 cores.  The power delivery on them is weak, and intended for the older chips that came before the FX-line.  A FX-6300 would work, perhaps, but I would never put a FX-8350 in that.  Minimal cooling and the motherboard just isn't built to handle the power draw.

If you do go AMD, I recommend that you get a proper motherboard and overclock.  It doesn't have to be anything huge - a simple number change in the UEFI will do the trick.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/7fstHx

FX-8320 is a lower clocked FX-8350 for cheaper.  These chips can easily be overclocked to run at FX-8350 speeds.

CPU-cooler.  Nice and quiet and keeps your CPU nice and cool.

MSI 970 Gaming.  Much better motherboard.  With AMD's FX-line, you do not want to cheap out here.

1TB - typical stuff.  If you can stretch, maybe fit a 120gb SSD.

GTX 970.  Much less power hungry than the R9 290, very overclockable, and runs a lot cooler.  I think it's worth the $20-30 premium.

Corsair 200R - great budget case.

EVGA 600B.  On par with Corsair's CX series, and inexpensive.  It's not top notch quality, but leagues ahead of cheap power supplies.

I appreciate the answers and build, thank you. I learned a lot. I hope you don't mind if I ask you to help me finalize the build on the 26th as things should be a lot cheaper since it is Boxing Day after all. Checking a couple of flyers I found FX-8350 for $169 on the 26th and I'm pretty sure it would be better to get that instead aswell as some other parts that will probably receive a discount. Hopefully there will be a cheaper cooling option during that day, I didn't think it cooling would cost so much. Same with the motherboard and case, I know I shouldn't cheap out on the important things so I won't but I'm just trying to get room to fit in that sweet 144hz gaming monitor haha.

You can get a cheaper cooler which can still cool nicely, but of course it won't perform as well or be as quiet.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/jwwyZL

Fitting in that 144hz monitor is gonna be tough - it's almost 1/4 of your budget.

I like those builds but I would go with 290 if your trying to save money, the performance is same as the 290 and its about $60 bucks cheaper

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#sort=a7&c=186,152

Yeah, not sure what I was looking at before, but at $60 price difference, the R9 290 becomes a great price-performer.

Hmm I changed the GPU to a R9 290x as it's on sale at the moment. What would you change now that the GPU is different? http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/H9jB7P

What kind of motherboard/power supply/case would we be looking at with a FX-8350? I know the FX-8320 is cheaper right now but in 24 hours the FX-8350 will be $169, is it really worth still going for the FX-8320 knowing that price?

Go for the FX-8350 - $169 is a steal.

The power supply usage is close - I usually like to go a little bit over (~100w greater than estimated), and maybe 50w more if I'm overclocking.

There's a pretty good deal on this EVGA 750 B2 - kind of in a weird spot.  Plenty of wattage to do as much overclocking as you really can, but not enough to add a second R9 290X in the future.  It's the next option up that I'd get from the 600B.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

Also, do you plan to crossfire in the future?  I'd go 850w if you were planning to do that, but I generally don't like crossfired R9 290/290Xs unless they're spaced out well due to thermals.

I'm not planning to crossfire in the future. Still need to learn how to properly overclock lol.

I was watching the $750 gaming pc video on youtube and down in the comments it mentioned my r9 290x possibly being bottlenecked which worries me, would a intel option be better? Same with Kingston memory, I'm conflicted now between same priced DDR3-1866 memory from G.Skill and Kington. I still put them in the PCPartPicker so I'll let you decide.

The FX-8350 for $169.99 is in-store only so I guess I'll be lining up haha.

Another worry is that the R9 290x for $299 is only on sale today so should I just buy it now or will there be a better GPU on Boxing Day?

Played around with the build and since I'm a noob I'll let you choose the motherboard + case, again as cheap/value as possible please :p. 

Looking at the price I should now be able to fit the 144hz panel in which is exciting. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/7WJpWZ

Well, the main thing is that Intel's per-core performance is higher, and therefore games that aren't threaded nicely(which is a large majority) tend to perform a bit better.  Streaming is a bit harder on the i5, though, as streaming prefers more cores.  Methods such as Quick Sync(Intel's iGPU streaming), Shadowplay/GameDVR, or simply stepping up to a CPU which has hyperthreading can help improve performance when streaming.

Intel does have a price premium.  The lowest i5s are like $190, and go into the upper 200s.

G.Skill has better RAM timings.  CAS latency is 9 versus 10.    Basically, the lower the CAS, the better.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/pGdGt6

Not sure if I told you this but:

Do you need Wifi?

Do you need an optical drive?

Do you need an operating system?

Hmm, so I guess the price premium isn't worth it for Intel when streaming. What if I only streamed CS:GO & League of Legends on lowest settings? Would it be better to go with Intel then?

I mean they're pretty much the only games people actually watch and I still have to line-up for Boxing Day for that FX-8350 which I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to get haha.

That being said, a lot of Intel processors will most likely receive a discount tomorrow so I'd feel guilty/don't want to ask for a pcpartpicker today. Especially because the one you made is already so price/performance godly. 

I'm pretty much sold on this build, unsure about the tower/case but overall feeling good.

So I mean Thank You, really. Trying to find the best deals really stressed me out, you helped with that. 

P.S. I love your avatar lol and nope I don't any need wifi adapter, optical drive or OS.