Can custom water loops be REALLY quiet?

Hello,
I am a fan of very silent computers. Basically I want my computer to be so quiet that I don’t know whether it’s on or off unless I look at the LED indication. So far the quietest coolers I’ve tried were air-based. Such as the Noctua NH-D15.
Not long ago I tried the Corsair H100i AIO cooler and it was terribly loud so I immediately replaced it with another cooler.

As for the GPUs I usually change the fan settings so that fans don’t kick in or spin fast unless the temperature is higher than the default “high”. This usually makes the ASUS Strix cards pretty silent. I’ve never tried a GPU water cooler.

However I have been thinking about a custom water loop, just because it looks cool and maybe for better OC performance. So I was wondering if I use water cooling for my whole system (CPU, 1-2 GPUs, maybe some part of the motherboard as well) would I be able to achieve the same level of quietness? As I know very little about water cooling I’m not sure how much or what kind of radiators I would need, but obviously whatever is the quietest. Would I be able to overclock without revving up the fans? Also I’ve heard that pumps tend to be loud or to make weird buzzing noises, no matter how low you set them. Any truth to that?

Thanks in advance.

The pump is the only thing I can hear in my system. You can put something around them to deaden the sound, but it doesn’t usually bother me too much. This does depend on pump type though, as some like to have room to breath.

For radiators, go as big as you can so you can run low speed fans to keep the noise down. My setup uses 3 180mm fans on a 540 rad & keeps it super cool & silent.

It all a bit of a balancing act to get things as cool as you want at the noise level you are happy with.

There are some really great air coolers out there that work with overclocking as well. I like the BeQuiet ones personally, some of them look even better than water setups in my opinion.

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According to most reviews the NZXT Kraken X62 AIO is really good and very quiet in silent mode.
Can custom loops be quieter and better performing than that?

I haven’t used an AIO so can’t say sorry. The advantage of custom loop is if you don’t like part of it, you can change it easily.

Pump is too loud, swap it or move it.
Radiator not big enough, replace it or add a second one.

The unfortunate part of reviews on noise levels is that we all have different levels that we think are loud or ok. So what I consider silent, you may think sounds like a plane flying overhead :slight_smile:

Hopefully someone with that cooler can chime in & let you know their thoughts.

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Idk about the NZXT AIOs but I know the corsair ones are really quiet if you set them to be that way. Pumps are near silent and fans are only loud if you make them loud lol.

Custom loops aren’t a massive amount better than AIOs are, but you can make them almost entirely silent so.

Well… If you wanted to go to the extreme you could go with a mineral oil cooled system with a couple huge rads and extremely low fans. That’s about as silent as I can think without going too exotic. Is it practical? nope. Is it cheap? nope. Is it convenient? hell no. But if silence is your goal… that’s a solid way to go.

I think that the case has a greater influence over the perceived noise level, than the cooling method used. For example, I have a old Raven v2 case that is fitted with three 180mm fans, which spin relatively slowly. This machine is virtually silent. I had to attach a streamer to the fan grille, so that I could see if the machine was on/fan was spinning (the HD activity LED faces away from me).

I have a NZXT H440, which is fitted with a Corsair AIO. The AIO is pretty noisy, but the H440 includes sound deadening material, so the AIO can not be heard once the case is buttoned up. This case easily contains the noisiest components, but it is by far the quietest machine that I own.

I also have a Corsair Air 540 case, which has a lot of openings and no sound deadening, whatsoever. This machine contains a custom water loop. The D5 pump in this loop makes a small fraction of the noise of the Corsair AIO, but I can hear the D5 from one meter away, if I turn my head just so and listen for it. I have no fan noise from this machine, since the five 140mm Noise Blocker fans spin at less than 1K RPMs.

IMHO, case selection is absolutely critical, but it also helps to have a cooling solution which implements large diameter, high-quality, slow-moving fans. A water loop, which includes a generous amount of radiator surface area particularly lends itself to larger fans, with relatively slow rotational speeds. With a sound deadened case, pump noise should not present a concern.

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I never hear the pump in my system. Only the fans when the computer turns on. At full load I can hear the fans a little but thats about it. If I have anything else making sound it drowns it out with ease.

IMO Corsair AIOs suck really bad. Their software is super crappy.
I have a H100i and the software needed some registry fixes in windows to work and couldn’t keep the settings after restart.
Maybe the newer ones are better but H100i has nothing to do with silent. My brother also has H100i and the software doesn’t work for him either.

I also have a H440 but it doesn’t hide the terrible noise form the H100i at all.
My brother has a Fractal Design Define R4 which is supposed to be somewhat silent and it doesn’t hide the terrible noise from the H100i either.

That’s not to say that the case doesn’t matter - it matter a lot.
Unfortunately it’s not enough to solve noise issues from loud coolers. I’m not sure it can hide pump noises either unless there is some really good pump that can work well at low RPMs.

What about the buzzing noises? Is it true that pumps make some buzzing noise similar to coil whine that cannot be solved?

I completely agree.

My AIO is an H105. Perhaps I did better in the pump lottery than others, but I would be completely unhappy with its noise level if this AIO were fitted in, say the Air 540 case. The fans aren’t particularly quiet, either, so UEFI fan speed control, or a stand alone controller is absolutely mandatory.

You make a good point about using a good quality pump that operates at low RPMs. There is certainly a limit as to how much noise a good case can mask and the faster something spins, whether it is a fan, or a pump, the more noise it will produce. Another factor to consider is that while a case may mask the radiation of pump and hard disk noises, for example, that case may unfortunately do a particularly good job of transmitting these noises directly into surface upon which the case is resting. My Raven v2 case is particularly good example of this. If sitting on the carpet, it is completely silent, but if it is sitting on my credenza, the hard disk noise drives me absolutely crazy! The case feet are very rigid and provide no damping, whatsoever. I must set this PC on an insulating pad, in order to use this machine while it is setting on the credenza. So, the moral of the story is that even if the components are relatively quiet, you must pay particular attention as to how they are mounted to the case. And, just because the case has noise damping, that doesn’t mean that the manufacturer didn’t cut corners on the case feet, or some other important case component.

I probably should have mentioned that my D5 pump is the model with the variable speed potentiometer built in. IIRC, it has five speed notches in the pump body to indicate relative speed. These are high speed, high volume general purpose pumps and high speed, high volume simply is not required for PC water cooling purposes. The water needs to spend a finite amount of time in the water block in order to to absorb the heat and likewise, it needs to spend a finite amount of time in the radiator(s), in order to dissipate the heat. I have the D5’s potentiometer set to the second notch, which keeps the noise production down and still provides more than adequate flow. If this pump was running wide open, or if it was the model with no speed regulation, it would be intolerable in the Air 540 case. I’ve run it a maximum speed when bleeding the cooling loop and I can affirm that it is not only loud, but the noise is at a particularly annoying frequency.

So, I would suggest that noise management must be approached in the same holistic manner that PC performance is approached. You must consider all of the parts and how they will interact with each other as a whole. A quiet case will not tame an ill-conceived combination of parts, but it can make a borderline combination quite pleasant to use. It is also important to reflect on the fact that we all perceive noise differently and we all have differing expectations. Personally, I find hard disk noise to be among the most annoying and objectionable. Back in the day, when the TDP’s of CPUs and GPU’s began to creep across the triple digit threshold, it was not uncommon to have extremely loud case fans … and power supplies were among the worse offenders. Thankfully most of these designs have been relegated to the server room and today, modern PCs are/can be quieter than they ever have been. It probably won’t happen by accident, though. As with any build, thorough planning, a critical selection of parts and careful assembly is required, in order to achieve the desired results.

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I don’t care about software, its an AIO, you use the BIOS to change the settings.
Also the older Corsair AIOS are not usually loud themselves. The fans are. And that can be fixed by going to quiet mode on the H100 for example, even if at the cost of slightly reduced performance.
And the new ones have much better fans so.

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I had the Corsair H110 without software or lights but switched the fans for basically silent noctuas. Plugged the pump in a fan header and set it to 50% or something. Temps went up around 2°C and the pump was dead silent. Same cooling system still running today in that system. But it’s a friends system now.

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I run a 1080ti and a 5820k both on custum loop and both OC’d as far as I can without major over volting. I litteraly can’t hear the rad or pump unless I place my head against the case. I have a 5" thick 480 rad with scythe fans, made a believer of me. YMMV

I don’t have any experience with water cooling but you can learn a lot from Singularity Computers or Jayz 2 cents on YouTube.

I would just like to mention that my be quiet! Silent Base 800 is an excellent case for watercooling and is very quiet with air cooling. The case is insulated with rubber sheets, the fans vents are covered and engineered for silence. Most of the be quiet! cases shares the same frame / layout with different sizes and price points. I re-did my fan tuning this weekend and made a thread about it “Share your big air cooling setups with us”.

I also want to throw out a tip - MOST COMPUTER CASE FEET ARE A SILLY RIP-OFF!
The be quiet! feet brackets are plastic with thin rubber strips, but I removed them because I use the case on it’s side, the way God and IBM intended. I was getting vibrations transferred to my desk so I bought some new case feet for the side / bottom panel. I’m using rubber feet made for Peavey guitar amps.

http://www.parts-express.com/peavey-large-rubber-feet-1-1-2-dia-x-3-4-tall-set-of-4--248-8786
#$6

IMO an AIO can be really quiet, if its setup that way. If the fans you put on it suck, it’ll be loud. Honestly, the SP fans corsair includes suck. I really don’t like Corsair’s SP or AF series fans. I’ve got one of each, and they’re the two loudest fans in my system. The electric motor they use in them is loud and really gets bad when they ramp up. Stick some good fans on there, and its an entirely different cooler. Go too good fans would be Noctua F, P, and A series, Corsair ML series, or Fractal Venturi series, just to name a few of the good options. Setup your fans on a good PWN controlled fan curve, get the pump running at a moderate speed, and your golden. Just as another recommendation, Steve from gamersnexus recommends only installing the radiator on the top of the case, or if you install on the front of back of the case, setup the radiator so as the tubes and fittings are towards the bottom of the case. If you install it that way, there will never be air bubbles that can get into the pump and make it run louder. Any air would be stuck at the top of the radiator, far from the pump.

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