BSD appreciation Thread

OSX is pretty cool.

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Funnily enough, I've never owned an OSX machine that was new enough to be apple-supported. It'd be a lot cooler if you could install it with proper best-effort support on whatever you wanted.

Apples Mac OS is open source. There was ( or is ) the puredarwin project ( I think that's he name ) where you can get the OS. You do not get out of the box the propriety stuff. I tried to install it once back in the day before I realized that you needed Mac compatible hardware. It failed, because it could not find the cpu cores, which I thought was a strange error.

Other then that, my only bsd experience was freebsd, which was a great experience.

There's so much prop stuff it depends on, that it will probably never run ootb on anything but macs, which kinda defeats the purpose.

Freebsd is so damn good, it's like centos or debian, if their maintainers never made a wrong or inefficient design decision.

bump?

Just because they aren't supported doesn't really mean anything.

It does if your time and spare/daily-driver hardware is at a premium.

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I use TrueOS everyday for work. Also worked on some FreeNAS stuff. Use OS X at home and of course iOS. Also attended some BSD conferences. It has a really interesting history.

I've yet to try from the ground up a vanilla FreeBSD install. That will be my next project

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so for non FreeBSD bsd's it is recommended to have an AMD gpu, if I were to use say use netbsd on a 950m how well would it work. As far as i understand it would work but with no graphics acceleration.

I'll just say that El Cap runs perfectly on that. If I had a C2D macbook or something similar I could do the same thing.

If you're not on freebsd, an IGP is ideal, not amd. you can get picture on most of them, no acceleration though. optimus may give you headaches as well.

OpenBSD is decidedly lighter, and the model I have is a Core "Not 2" Duo. Not my daily driver anyway.

Where do you work that uses TrueOS in production?

Also, vanilla Freebsd is bae.

Ah well OSX is my dream OS at this point. I'll never be able to own a new mac so I make do.

Yeah man, I get the appeal, It's just not good for me as a daily driver because I need more meat for less money than what their current offerings provide, and I don't want to deal with putting it on unsupported hardware. Might do it as a hobby thing on a retired piece of kit here in a bit though.

Actually once you have it installed and set up theres not really any issues.

That's a little misleading (though I'm sure you aren't trying to deceive anyone). I've looked into it, and there are a cornucopia of gotchas and potential bork states from installation to basic maintenance. It's not duct-taped together or anything, but it isn't rock solid either.

At a place where everyone uses mostly open source, and I use it for mostly office tasks. The heavy stuff (virtualization, etc) gets done on server hardware. I still require the other OS for certain tasks however.

I have a machine with 4 drives at home I could put FreeBSD on with ZFS

Go for it. Create a slummy rackmount in a box with jails!

My real question was kinda if your work enforced it, or if you just get your pick of the litter.

TrueOS does so many things right, I really wish I had the expertise to support it through development.

Honestly for me a computer isn't owned until you work on it. If I have to patch something it only feels more unique to me. No I wouldn't deceive anyone, but a daily driver to me is Arch or OSX, fuck me if I have to use ubuntu I have no updates ever for my software, can't build shit from the AUR and submit bug reports to better it, and have to constantly fix the boot sequence shit..... But even doing that, its mine.

I'll never push anyone to hackintosh I don't think. Its as difficult as jumping into arch or slackware to learn linux. Its rather stupid actually. You would think by now someone on i2p would just bodge a system together but nope. We're doing this insanely difficult thing because we want it, even if it is absolutely retarded.

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