Apple EOLs OpenGL and OpenCL in next macOS... WHAT THE EFF?!?

So it begins…

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apple is screwing themselves over HARD on this one. Still wondering what adobes move is gonna be

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crosses fingers this doesn’t make Windows even more of a juggernaut.

Seriously, people like macOS because of the ‘utopian’ plug-in-play style of system. If all their products leave mac, they are x99999 more likely to switch to windows, and not Linux. All it does is make macOS smaller, Windows bigger, and in turn, marginalizing Linux even more.

Wow. Apple has lost a big name in the 3D animation business. Wonder if this means big studios will either migrate to Windows or Blender… If big studios start moving to Blender, that could finally end Maya and 3DS Max’s reign.

If Windows as a Service extends to the Enterprise, they will jump ship and stop updating their systems to keep that garbage off their systems.

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I see this as a strategy to pull a MS DirectX like move on mobile game developing. They don’t care that much for their general purpose computers to push into the competitive gaming market.

they end of life openGL and openCL to force developers to develop for metal so they have more control over the whole stack, in turn, making it slightly more difficult for those same developers to port their products to other operating systems.

See, this is why I was against the industry adopting Apple ProRes as a broadcast standard. It’s also why I completely disagree with the non-free exFAT being made a SD card association standard, which can’t be read by ANY vanilla Linux image because exFAT is non-free proprietary code, AND IT’S IN EVERY SDXC CARD.

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Holding a torch to the wrong tree.
The right sheep to burn are the SAAS billionares who don’t perform major rewrites after reaching highest share values in company history year after year.
Open CL is broken in a LOT of ways.
The way ALL adobe applications handle the image canvas as a texture doesn’t even render correctly - it’s poorly integrated because only on professional cards is it supposed to be handled correctly.
On top of that Adobe are an Nvidia commercial, autodesk have fallen stagnant releasing updates that actually make the UI trememendously slow - it’s almost as if the software is 2x worse than what it used to be.
I couldn’t be happier the fire is under their ass.

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The thing is, it’s not. They wont change as a result they will just stop supporting Mac.

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All the nonfree stuff that somehow made it to become a standard has not helped with anything. It is just that a big name stands behind it (see VHS vs Video2000. Video2000 was the better system, but VHS won anyway).

We are talking big corporations fighting it out here. The short of it is “more work costs money, mac does not have significant marketshare, give it the axe.”

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Something nobody seems to have mentioned here before (or maybe I missed it)

Apple created OpenCL

Also don’t equate EOL with End of Support or Removal from the platform.
So much in MacOS has been EOL for about a decade now. Just open up bash on a mac and look at the version.

It’s all antiquated and frankly I’m amused that people still spend time developing for OS X / iOS given what a hostile platform it can be to code for.

That reminds me, does anyone know what licence Vulkan is under? If it’s GPL3, then there’s the reason it was never considered.

Is there evidence that blender will continue to support macOS? When I looked into it, the response to deprecating OpenGL/CL was essentially, “looks like Apple users are SOL.”

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Should be Apache 2.0 afaik
I think previously Khronos Free Use License ?

Well, as we can see it kinda does. Even if apple wouldn’t kick it out of their OS (which they probably will a year later), EOL simply means software development for the platform will be halted by many companies.

Is brew install opengl a thing that’s possible? Not sure if it can install something at that level.

Not sure but it doesn’t really matter. If the support is not official nobody is gonna develop for that.

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Blender might, but yeah not in general.


Also, holy shit balls, Apple stock is up 5%.

Yeah, there’s an alternative: Linux for Blender. You could still run Apple hardware but run Linux to run Blender. The Trash Can might even run better under Linux.

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yall realize metal has translation calls for OGL and vulkan right

not actually gonna be an issue

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