You and me both lol
I just listen to the experts on which to buy and which to avoid and hope someone translates this all into layman’s terms 
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Yeah kinda, some of the same people designed both. AMD put it into practice earlier, but Apple patented theirs about three months after Zen 1 launched. Very obvious they were going to eventually make use of it.
Others do not have THIS tech. They have some other, similarly purposed tech. When they say something like that they’re being extremely literal.
Wait, how did you get specific performance and power figures? The Studio doesn’t ship until the 18th.
Oh, you’re comparing the base model of M1, not anything newer. Well hey if Handbrake is 5x faster on the 3900X I have good news for you, M1 Ultra has 5x the cores of M1. So it should be pretty even unless Handbrake is still stuck in 2003 with no multi-thread awareness and scaling.
And thunderbolt bridging, display sync, and a decent chunk of useful offloading from the Mac’s GPU. Makes sense to use something with a bit of oomph to handle that kind of bandwidth.
This isn’t the new Mac Pro, basically. They directly addressed that an updated Mac Pro is still to come.
I want to see people actually price match a TR PRO or Xeon W system against the Mac Studio as it ships with M1 Ultra, then do their performance testing. Starting price for just a comparable CPU from either lineup is $2000-$2500, just the CPU. Insert “Now draw the rest of the owl” meme here. I’m happy to shit on Apple when they fuck up, but barring some gripes about the insane cost of their generally pretty basic peripherals, and the Magic Mouse still charging from the bottom, the actual Mac Studio machine isn’t that bad on pricing IF the performance claims even prove to be in the right ballpark.
Has handbrake been optimized for M1 yet?
Personally, I think the more interesting product was the Studio Display; that has something to offer for basically all macbook, mac pro, mac mini, etc users and the pricing actually isn’t terrible.
Their Pro XDR displays are about as much of a joke as the current Mac Pro in terms of value, so that was nice to see.
I’d actually like one for my macbook.
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The Mac Studio isn’t anything we didn’t really already predict; they’re literally just scaling the hardware up, same as they did with all the other M1 variants.
About the most surprising thing was the pricing, but they’re still doing absurd things with the internal, non-upgradable storage. Also, not only do they have the data integrity issues, but people have reported terrible speeds with external storage. too.
I’m not really curious about the Mac Pro because we can basically just say ‘take the M1 Max and multiply it by N’ and there ya go.
Good question! Turns out the answer is kinda muddy. Supposedly yes, but the updates to fix critical bugs aren’t rolling out as fast as macOS versions are, so each new version there’s issues.
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Dunno why but my brain read that as “Viagra provider” and I spent a good 10 seconds pondering why you would have to wait on your Viagra provider to make a decision on buying a Mac Studio …
Oh well, time for another coffee, I’d say …
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I read the press release with increasing dread over how good it looked (technologically) but how unhappy I know it would make me to buy one.
Someone! Please make a worthwhile SoC but without Apple baggage!
I saw a few videos on it. I legit might get one if it isn’t a pain in the pp to put your own storage in it.
If the M1 Ultra is a connected chiplet design, how long until cpus are the size of power 5 8-cores? 
Soldered storage; can’t upgrade it.
Sadly won’t be able to put more storage in, I’ll be buying the 1Tb with 20 core 64gb ram most likely but if my Rtx A6000 sale goes through tonight like it should I’ll be preordering the 128gb and 2Tb and just rely on TB4 connection to my NAS for the rest of my storage.
I went with the base ultra but bumped to 2TB and figure i’ll do the same with TB4 connections to my NAS.
I haven’t been this excited since I flashed my 2009 Mac Pro to 2010 to put updated Xeons in it. The Studio is the kind of system I’ve wanted for a long time but totally understand it’s not for everyone.
Agreeed im damn excited for it! Sounds like a perfect machine for me to work and daily drive, and then offload longer and harder workloads to my A100 GPU in my server
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This has given me the first attack of the shinies since the current Mac Pro came out. But I think I will wait to see what the new Mac Pro will be like - rumours suggest it will be out by the end of this year.
I find the unified architecture very interesting, as once you start getting 64GB+ available to the GPU and neural engines, it enables training large neural networks that simply do not fit on anything less than a top end 80GB A100. Training may be a bit slower, but in terms of price this is a big deal. And that’s not taking the lower power consumption into consideration - the whole system is rated at approximately the same power draw as just one GPU.
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Problem though:
Nvidia has CUDA; these don’t.
Im hype cause it’s finally the m1 fits the segment of the market with a workhorse i truely wanted ive wanted middle ground machine for a long time
Plus these allow some of the old mac mini racks to still be useful
The end of the presentation “we havent moved over the mac pro yet”
mmm. got to see the LG 5K ultra fin today in MicroCenter and they confirmed they’ll hvae the new apple stuff in a couple weeks
definitely going to be thinking hard about picking one/twoo of the studio displays
Yup I’ve already preordered 2x Nano textured Studio displays aswell as my Studio Ultra 128gb,2Tb model. I’m hyped.
Sold My RTX A6000 + i9 10900 + Titan V system to cover all the costs, the order cost me £500 basically what’s not bad at all.
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True, but there is a port of Tensorflow for M1 Macs that uses Metal instead. And the point about the architecture still stands - if it allows you to do something that you couldn’t before, someone is going to write the software to take advantage of it, especially if it is going to save them time/money.
Eh. It doesn’t work as well, last I checked. And people aren’t gonna want to change over toolchains and workflows.
Nvidia Tensor cores are akin to Apple media engine; it’s just a fact that one piece of silicon is better for certain tasks.
Also, counter-counter point:
Apple has put plenty of new, different hardware in their tablets, but there’s still no software to take advantage of it. It’s a real problem