AMD WX7100 Pro GPU build with X370 MSI Carbon | Level One Techs

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This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://level1techs.com/video/amd-wx7100-pro-gpu-build-x370-msi-carbon
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Going to need to see tests vs an RX 580 in general, maybe throw in a 1080 or 1070 as well for comparison.

Also be sure to do a premier rendering test. At least someone from youtube is finally testing a WX 7100

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https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-TridentZ-288-Pin-Platform-F4-3200C16D-16GTZKW


(will need AM4 bracket from cooler master unless you find the new packaging where it comes with it)

... just add your own storage device such as the Toshiba RD400 m.2, WD Black m.2, SATA SSD, your operating system license and you've got a full system. We recommend the Ryzen 5 1600 or Ryzen 7 1700 for this build.

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I've been debating between a lower end Radeon Pro WX card and a Quadro P-series card for my workstation.

Either should be good cards for the purposes.

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Are the radeon cards generally cheaper?

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yes almost all of the pro line is cheaper than the nvida equivalent. i think the pro duo (dual fury card with a little bit more float point accuracy and speed.) was the closest in cost to a firepro card in a long time. and nearly matched some of the newer "quattro"

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@Wendell
I'm hoping you'll do some testing in Davinci Resolve. Keep in mind if you are using the WX card for compute it will have to be the second card in the system. Davinci Resolve will always use the primary card just for display tasks and the compute work always falls on the secondary card. I'm asking because I'm curious what advantages the pro cards offer over the 2 Fury-X cards I run with now. I think Vega Frontier Edition is bringing hardware accelerated HEVC 10bit YUV 4k in it's pro drivers and I'm curious if the WX cards offer that same feature at better pricing than $1000 or $1500.

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... turn it on... Its booting! ...alright.... Whoever edited this and/or thought of putting that in is amazing.

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Yes and no.

For price it more or less goes

WX 2100 → P600 → WX 3100 → WX 4100 → P1000 → WX 5100

And performance is more or less

WX 2100 → P600 → WX 3100 → P1000 → WX 4100 → WX 5100

But even then it's kinda hard to directly compare because of CUDA v. SPUs and memory clocks and whatnot.

And then there's the option of going with a gaming GPU and just dealing with it.

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Could you please post some info on the memory? I am currently stocking up to build my next desktop based on Ryzen and I would like to have some indication as to what memory is known to work well on that platform. I am looking to buy 2x16GB DIMMs.

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Reddit's got you covered.

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@w.meri Excellent. Thanks! Just what I needed.

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https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/07/14/memory-oc-showdown-frequency-vs-memory-timings?sf98152750=1

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@wendell

Let me start off by saying: hats off to you guys. A proper tech channel finally got around to building a proper workstation-class system. Until now, it was all just shaky-cam coverage by someone filming their brand new Xeon/Quadro/FirePro with little-or-no commentary. Let's face it - there's no shortage of people covering gaming tech on YouTube, while the converse is true of this kind of hardware. I really hope you guys do a lot more of this kind of content in the future.

Anyway, getting to the point: I've been doing architectural visualization for the last 8 years. It was while searching for coverage on the hardware I'd need to work stuff like 3DS Max, AutoCAD, V-Ray, Photoshop, AfterEffects, etc. etc. that I ended up finding Wendell's video on a dual Xeon build; been a fan of the channel since then. While I'm not going to claim to be an expert in the field, I have experimented with the software (and their relevant hardware overheads) to have learned enough of their ins-and-outs. Coincidentally, I've also worked in IT for a short while, so I also have some grasp of enterprise-class hardware.

Should you guys ever need to consult anyone with a working understanding of content creation software, their workflows and pipelines, and the hardware involved, I'd be more than happy to lend a hand. Consider it my way of thanking you for the years of great content and insight you guys have provided to the community since the Tek days.

Since you guys invited your audience to share their perspective on this particular video on the WX7100 build, I thought I'd toss in my two cents:

The WX7100 looks to me like a decent card to drive viewports in programs like Blender, 3DS Max, Maya, etc. (even Unreal Engine or Unity to some extent) and given it's massive resolution capabilities and 10-bit color support, it'd also be a good primary GPU to drive your displays. However, I doubt that it would fare particularly well with raw compute - e.g. GPU/hybrid rendering in stuff like Octane/Fstorm/Cycles. If a user were creating content with this system and rendering off the CPU, network, or cloud, this would be a great card for the job. However, anyone doing GPU-based rendering, physics simulation, scientific models, etc. would ideally pair this with one or more high-end GPUs with more clock speed and cores (e.g. 1080/Vega FE/Tesla/etc.)

Well, I hope this was useful to someone. Have a good one.

Obligatory TL;DR - Very happy to see L1Techs doing pro hardware. I do 3D stuff so I can share some perspective on that and other various things - feel free to hit me up. IMO: WX7100 good for working on stuff and running monitors; not so good for rendering and other stuff. Best to pair with high-horsepower GPUs to render and simulate.

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Yes would be interesting to see this system paired with a Instinct MI series cards in the future for an example.
https://instinct.radeon.com/en-us/product/mi/

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Per w.meri's advice, I tweaked and moved my questions about a modified version of this build to Build-a-PC: Is this mod of the recent Level1Techs Ryzen/MSI Carbon build good for me?

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I suggest making a new thread about your question(s) in the "Build-a-PC" subforum. You'd probably get more/better answers and won't have potential clutter competing between your topic and this one.

Anyways, my quick opinion on your scenario is:

  • With a small overclock both the Ryzen 7 1700 and 1700X will perform the exact same as the 1800X, but will save $100 to $200.
    • Use of the cores depends on the specific program, not Windows.
  • Any modern GPU will work with any modern motherboard with a PCIe x16 slot, which is all of them outside of specific use case products. Gotta love cross-compatibility!
  • The WX 5100 should have no issue with four 4K monitors at once. Just don't expect gaming at 4K to be all that pretty on it.
  • Reddit has a list of RAM for Ryzen. Pretty much anything in the first table is a perfect choice.
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I like how L1 has picked a workstation card in the reach of a solo person. It is a solid choice to build knowledge on. A student could perhaps get something second hand but you should start from a platform that is a real world professional workstation.

Im very interested in how this evolves and hope some young ones get some ideas.

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All right, I tweaked the message with your suggestions and put it in the proper place. Thank's for your advice and suggestions.