The new CPUs incorporate AMD's "Piledriver" architecture, and will be available on launch as an eight-core, six-core, and four-core processors. In a document received by Chinese site EXPreview titled "2012 consumer-level desktop platform Quick Reference Guide for Desktops", AMD listed FX processors and the upcoming release of the APU model, the core number, frequency, and the TDP specifications.
The flagship FX-8350 is listed with a 4.00 GHz clock speed (4.20 GHz TurboCore speed), eight-cores, and TDP of 125W. The FX-6300 features 3.50 GHz clock speed (4.10 GHz TurboCore speed), six-cores and TDP of 95W. To round off the list, the FX-4320 features 4.00 GHz clock speed (4.20 GHz TurboCore speed), four-cores and TDP of 95W. None of the FX processors support integrated GPU, but support a full list of "Piledriver" features, such as AMD Perfect Picture HD, AMD Steady Video 2.0 Technology and AMD Wireless Display.
In addition, the leaked document confirms clock speeds, integrated GPU, and GPU cores of several FM2 A-series APUs, such as the A10-5700, A8-5500 and E2-1800."
Wow, they really kicked it up a notch in the APU sector... That A10 is going to be incredible. Still going to wait on the benchmarks though. Not gonna hype myself up again after Bulldozer... :P
i have a 990fx board, the only difference is native usb 3.0 so far. maybe these amd equivilent lucid and stuff but i dont need that. plus im broke anyway lol
going to take a shot in the dark and say they'll still suck, even worse perhaps, I don't put much faith in amd once they representives said "no consumer cares about nanometers,and they never will" and they're also still using computer gennerated CPUs instead of handmade one which are more effecient, they have more Ghz, you know why, because they couldn't make the better or as good as previous genneration at the same freq, do you see intel make a +4Ghz CPU, No because they made one at the same speed that is faster, they don't need to.
<not intel fanboy, I use what is cheap and what is fast, it used to be AMD and their Phenom II line, and now its sandybridge
what's fucking sad is intels step up from a celleron chip is beating the shit out of AMD's best of the best FX line chip in games, the games are at the bottom
if AMD actually gave a shit then how do you explain a low wattage dual core Celly is getting half the score for genneral computing of a of a "8 core" that's nearly a Ghz faster?
used to have a lot of respect and faith for AMD, now all that is left is disappointment
they tried something new and failed, it happens, we all wish we could have seen a die shrink of phenom II and it would probably be amazing, but they have other plans, and its just the way they went. i think loosing respect is a pretty harsh way to put it. think about it from their side, do you think they wanted to put out sub par chips?
you would think early test would show that it was not giving suffecient results and they should go with a better method such as a die shrunk phenom II line, while that is released work on a better chip, a die shrunk Phemom II might have provided awesome performance but it would still be faster than bulldozer and at a lower TDP, they went into it guns blazing with no backup plan. it is a little much to ask for them to compete with intel since they hold so many patents on CPU technology but you don't have to be faster to win the game, if they just released CPUs/APUs with lower TDP or APUs that were designed a little smarter, for example if you have a limited TDP for laptop CPU why limit the best GPU to a qaud core that is 1.5Ghz, why not make it a dual core around 2-2.5Ghz with the top tier APU GPU, that would be the smart choice since most applications including games don't take advantage of more than 2 core and rely on two mostly serial threads, its choices like that and their business statement that made me lose respect, they basically said there was really no need to make major improvements to their APU line because the consumer doesn't need it? that's abosolutly retarded, techology advancements should be the limiting factor, not the limits you impose upon yourself from BS marketing
I'm with gigabusterEXE on this one. What is the point in having 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (125W TDP) when an i5-3570 (77W TDP) is overall faster? ~15 - 20% improvement over Bulldozer is not going to compete with Intel... AMD, get in the fight or GTFO.
A shrinked Phenom II X4 / X6 would have been awesome... I don't know what the hell AMD was thinking...
Also, I´ve read on the internet about Intel having implemented a so called non-Intel CPU cripple function into their compiler.
Some of you guys might know that Intel is selling its compiler to developers. This is known to be the best, as of now, and also pretty cheap. At least that´s what I´ve read on the internet. I am not informed well in that matter, so please baear with me.
So each application that gets developed with this compiler has a bias towards Intel CPUs.
I am not a programmer/developer but if I got that right, as soon as a non-Intel CPU gets detected the slowest possible code path, or whatever it´s name was, gets provided to run the application.
This would explain why AMD´s CPUs perform worse than expected in general.
Now, as I haven´t really looked into this matter any further, I cannot guarantee that this is true.
I´ve also read that Intel god sued over this and had to pay a fine. They´ve also been ordered to remove this function.
Yet, if this is really true, I believe that Intel is able to find a back door in order to continue with this.
Again, keep in mind that this is just what I´ve read on the internet. I didn´t claim that it is 100% true or that there´s at least some truth in it.
Remember when Intel kept raising the clock speed of their Pentium 4 in order to compete with the 2.2ghz AMD 64 FX chips back in 2004 2005? Yeah this is that but in reverse. 4.0ghz stock speed, yeah I am skeptical, it seems hey couldn't do anything other than, "well lets raise the clock speed because reasons".
No I don´t remember that but I´ve read about it. I agree that´s exactly what´s happening right now, it´s just that this time AMD is at a disadvantage, sadly.
I haven´t given up on AMD totally, yet. That´s why I am patient and still waiting for the Piledriver to be released. Only if this fails I will gladly switch to Intel.
