I also would go with a tower fan like the one I picked out above; noise will be lower than the AIO, temps won’t be different enough to matter (5 deg difference or so) and you probably don’t really need to squeeze every little last percent out of your poor system, the slack is there for a reason (stability). Water cooling is addictive and can get expensive fast… Even without leaks!
@MisteryAngel; I’ll happily discuss that in a new thread, would the mods be kind enough to split this one?
Out of those boards i would go for the Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro or Ultra.
Those 2 boards at their price points, have pretty much the best vrm out there.
So based on that i would go with either one of those 2 depending on features you need.
The vrm implementations are the same between those 2 boards.
Only the Ultra board has a 6 layer pcb and there for will be a bit better on memory OC.
But other then that both boards have a 12+1 phase implementation with 50A Vishay Sic634 Drmos powerstages.
Vrm wise there isnt really any competition from other brands based at this price point.
And for a 9900K it should be more then decent enough.
There also is a Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master, which is a little bit more expensive over the Ultra.
Vrm wise they are very similar, only that the Master is using an all IR vrm implementation,
12+2 phases with 50A IR3553 powerstages.
And those other two the pro and ultra use an ISL implementation with 50A Vishay’s.
But this generally doesn’t matter all that much, the master will run slightly cooler and more efficient.
But i would say its negligible.
So yeah likely not really worth it going for the Aorus Master over the Ultra.
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus pro.
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra.
Those are the two boards that i would look at.
I would likely opt for the Ultra if you can.
But if not then the pro wouldnt be a bad choice either.
The Pro only has a 4 layer pcb.
I would say compair those boards in terms of features and price.
And pick the one you like.
Well i’m not going to drag this into any discussion further.
However i just stand with my statement that non of the B450 boards,
are capable of handling a 3900X properly.
Because their vrm implementations all suck, i base that on my own vrm expertise’s.
There is of course a reason why those boards are cheap.
It would of course work, but how long it will last…
i mean running the mosfets close to their thermal trashold lfor longer periods of time… idk
A couple of once done tests don’t really tell me that much.
But a motherboard is still one of the most important parts of a system.
And i would generally not advice to cheap out on it too much, especially not with a highend cpu.
But aside from all this.
My recommendation still goes to Intel 9900K setup.
Because i think that intel currently is still more stable or lets say less quirky.
Although AMD would generally not a bad choice either doe.
It still saves you a bit of cash in regards to the cpu.
No worries bro, I read all the posts and learned some new stuff to take in account for my next PC which is going to be made for gaming =)
Cool! I thought the i9 9900k “needed” a water cooling solution, what do you think about this one:
This one is in stock right now and I’ve got some good results using Noctua coolers on different workstations.
All good my friend, learned a lot about VRMs after reading your posts!
There’s a price different of 100€ between the Pro and the Ultra, do you think I should spend the extra 100€? As I stated before, I’m not planing to OC (At least not right now) since this PC is for a studio and nothing more.
Again, thanks everyone for their input on this topic!
Is there any difference between the D15 and the D15S I’ve been reading the specs where I buy computer parts but see no diference here. There’s a 20€ that’s why I’m asking.
I have that same interface for my “mobile” recording rig, have you tried some demaning VSTs with Ryzen? Like Kontakt, drum VSTs, guitar amp VSTs and such? Sorry to make many questions, just wanted to know if Ryzen has problems with latency in a recording scenario.
Yes, the d15s has more clearance around it and only one fan. The d15 is beefy. I havent been paying attention enough to know what case you’re going with and what board you’ve chosen but youll want to check the measurements for clearance issues. I can help with that later if you need.
Just checked prices on those Gigabyte Z390 boards. At least here in Germany that’s X470 Taichi money for the Pro, the cheaper one. So on the AM4 side that would be a board capable of upgrading even to a 3950X later on without any problem.
I haven’t looked at Intel compatibility lately but for the last couple generations whenever a new series of CPUs hit the market, you needed a new board as well. So with a 9900K, that’s probably it for Z390.
Now to bring this whole thing back to the actual use case for @lazzari89, here is a question we all should have asked a long time ago:
In pure boost clockspeed the 9900k is about 10% faster than a 3700X / 3800X / 3900X. In terms of single core compute performance, it is less than that.
Here is the thing: if you need it, get Intel. If you can live without it for a year or so, USB4 is coming and will do to TB what USB3 did to firewire, probably even worse. So if you don’t need it now, … I would not buy into it. (Or in this case at least leave it out of your decision making.)